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InvisibleMr. Pink
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Cheap, automated monster terrarium idea with pics
    #433468 - 10/22/01 07:25 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Here is a project I have going at the moment. I would appreciate any comments/suggestions from some of you experts here. I will also be more than happy to help any newbies who want to grow tons of fun-guys, but take my advice with a grain of salt... I am a fucking retard ;)

...having said that, let's begin shall we. FOAF's objective was to construct a huge terrarium that could be fully automated (He leaves town alot) with a mininmal amount of overhead. He got sick and tired of dealing with 10 different rubbermaid containers and fanning and misting and yadda yadda yadda. The hobby was begining to consume him, and his yields in the past were pathetic. He also lives in a basement, and has bad problems with trich, so he needed something sterile. While browsing the isles of Wal-Mart yesterday, he got some ideas. First he bought a 5 shelf unit for about 15 bucks. He thought the shelf system was great because the shelves themselves allowed for free air flow with their numerous holes. Observe picture 1


...Ignore the pathetic casing. It had just survived a major trich operation. As you can see, the holes in the shelf allow for air movement within the system.

Next he needed to isolate the shelf system from the nasties living in his basement (cobweb and trich). He did this using 4 mil thick plastic sheeting attached with good ole duct tape. It allows light in but keeps contams out. Observe picture 2


Again, ignore the fact that the shelves are being used to hold the sterlite containers at this point. This is only because FOAF is working to complete the project. Soon enough, the entire shelf unit will be one huge terrarium, and the containers will be useless. Notice the HEPA filter at the bottom, this will come into play soon.

Now, once the shelf system is completley sealed with plastic sheeting, two issues need to be addressed. One is humidity, the other is air exchange. To keep the humidity high in the terrarium, FOAF picked up one of these at Wally world for 20 bucks....


Mind you, all of that dryer ducting tubing is just sitting there for now to give you the idea. FOAF's idea is two-fold concerning humidty. He wants humid air pumped into his terrarium, but he also wants clean, filtered air. His idea was to seal the cool mist in a leftover sterlite container, which, in turn, is fed air from a small HEPA filter (~$40). This clean, saturated air would then be pumped into the top of the terrarium via dryer ducting. The whole setup would be plugged into this 9 dollar bad boy timer...


...this timer allows for FOUR on/off setting per HOUR. This should be plenty to allow for humidity build up and subsequent CO2 evacuation (which is coming right up).


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Re: Cheap, automated monster terrarium idea with pics [Re: Mr. Pink]
    #433473 - 10/22/01 07:29 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Here is a pic of the coolmist in the container...it fits perfect.


Next, FOAF wanted his CO2 build up to be evacuated periodically. Stamets suggests 1-3 air exchanges per hour. To accomplish this, FOAF will by a cheap, smalll diameter desktop fan. He will then buy an approriate size sterlite container and cut the lid to fit the fan's diamter snugly. Since carbon dioxide is heavier than air, this box will be mounted on the lower shelf of the terrarium and filled with polyfill. It will then have holes cut in the bottom and exit out of the terrarium . This way, air can get out when the fan is on, but no unsterile air can enter when the fan is off. The fan will be hooked up to one of the same timers and set to power on in accordance with stamets suggestions and the power cycle of the cool mist.

This is all FOAF has done for now. He will update the thread with more pics and info as he completes the project this week. Again, any and all criticisim, comments or questions are welcome. He just wants to give back to a community that has helped him in the past.

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Re: Cheap, automated monster terrarium idea with pics [Re: Mr. Pink]
    #433478 - 10/22/01 07:33 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

i'm impressed.


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Re: Cheap, automated monster terrarium idea with pics [Re: geokills]
    #433496 - 10/22/01 07:54 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Sweet!!!!
It may be helpful to get two or three humidty/temperature
gauges with a terrarium that tall as things may not distribute evenly.


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Re: Cheap, automated monster terrarium idea with pics [Re: mrshrums]
    #433618 - 10/22/01 09:53 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks for the comments guys...

Anyone have an idea on how long I should run my cool mist and fan??


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Re: Cheap, automated monster terrarium idea with pics [Re: Mr. Pink]
    #433623 - 10/22/01 09:58 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

I'd say run the cool mist 24/7 for something that size. Very nice work ;) But if you can then run the fan for half hour every hour.


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Re: Cheap, automated monster terrarium idea with pics [Re: optikal_trip]
    #433668 - 10/22/01 10:36 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

I figured that would be WAY too long, but then again I don't have any experience with humidifiers before. I am afraid of too many water droplets forming, so I might use a pieced of plexi as a dripshield. How fast do those cool mists fill up and average size terrarium?

Any other glaring oversights with this idea that anyone can spot?



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Re: Cheap, automated monster terrarium idea with pics [Re: Mr. Pink]
    #434683 - 10/23/01 11:08 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Back with some updates...

FOAF added a 10 dollar gro stick light, rich in the blue spectrum and mounted it on top shelf.


FOAF added 4 * $2.00 wheels to make his terrarium mobile and easily concealable (more on that later..)


FOAF mounted a 20 dollar 65 cfm fan (terrarium is 13.5 cubic feet) from radio shack in a sterlite container filled with polyfill.



This is what the inside looks like now.



Check out the pic below, the smoke from my cig gets sucked right out of the box. Looks to be good for air entrainment, but I'm no fucking McMan thank you very much ;)



Here is the HEPA feed Cool Mist box... total coast 60 bucks.



Here is what the back looks like now..



More updates to come, but only if someone lets me know they give a shit. Reply people!




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Re: Cheap, automated monster terrarium idea with pics [Re: Mr. Pink]
    #434690 - 10/23/01 11:14 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

!!!!Reservoir Dogs is one of my favorite movies!!!!

Where'd you find the action figure??


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Re: Cheap, automated monster terrarium idea with pics [Re: MycoDorkus]
    #434694 - 10/23/01 11:19 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

GF bought it for me for my birthday, I'll have to ask her....

I got all 5, next series will even have the cop with a removable ear, lol.


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Re: Cheap, automated monster terrarium idea with pics [Re: Mr. Pink]
    #434704 - 10/23/01 11:24 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

So they are newer? Im tempted to change my shroomery board handle to mr. blonde. didn't know there was some other fellow doggers in the house


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Re: Cheap, automated monster terrarium idea with pics [Re: MycoDorkus]
    #434737 - 10/23/01 11:58 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah, I think they just came out. I saw them in an old Maxim magazine if that helps. You gotta love Resevoir Dogs, I am sure there are other doggers here.


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Re: Cheap, automated monster terrarium idea with pics [Re: Mr. Pink]
    #434738 - 10/23/01 11:59 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

I must say man, that is a nice setup. Once my hippo gets things going a bit he is thinking of using your idea. Keep up the good work.


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Re: Cheap, automated monster terrarium idea with pics [Re: Panic]
    #434793 - 10/24/01 12:44 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

i'm thinking of trying the same thing it looks so good, but (and this may be stupid and easy to see, but mind you I am a retard as well..:) ) how do you get things in and out of the setup? it looks to me like everything is sealed?


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Re: Cheap, automated monster terrarium idea with pics [Re: Mr. Pink]
    #434799 - 10/24/01 12:55 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

"Next, FOAF wanted his CO2 build up to be evacuated periodically. Stamets suggests 1-3 air exchanges per hour. To accomplish
this, FOAF will by a cheap, smalll diameter desktop fan. He will then buy an approriate size sterlite container and cut the lid to fit
the fan's diamter snugly. Since carbon dioxide is heavier than air, this box will be mounted on the lower shelf of the terrarium and
filled with polyfill. It will then have holes cut in the bottom and exit out of the terrarium . This way, air can get out when the fan is
on, but no unsterile air can enter when the fan is off. The fan will be hooked up to one of the same timers and set to power on in
accordance with stamets suggestions and the power cycle of the cool mist."


this process confused me a little, could you maybe explain it a little further? if you have enter and exit holes then how can't regular air enter through these holes?


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Re: Cheap, automated monster terrarium idea with pics [Re: Snobrdr311]
    #434819 - 10/24/01 01:09 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks for the feedback guys.

To answer your questions, I just had a great idea tonight to buy the same 15 dollar shelf system and 3 hinges. The hinges would be attached to the side of the shelves, making them like one huge book if you can picture it. This crack will seal itself when closed, but removable duck tape will provide some extra insurance.

To help explain my air intake/exhaust system....

Intake:

HEPA Filter ----> Sealed dryer ducting ------> Sealed sterlite container containing Cool Mist ------> Sealed dryer ducting to top of terrarium.

This should provide humidity and clean air all in one fell swoop.

Exhaust:

Radio shack fan mounted flush in lid of sterlite container ---> Polyfill stuffed container blocks nasties from coming in/ CO2 comes out

In theory should work, I guess we will see. Any guesses?


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Re: Cheap, automated monster terrarium idea with pics [Re: Mr. Pink]
    #434899 - 10/24/01 01:57 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

im extreamly impressed


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Re: Cheap, automated monster terrarium idea with pics [Re: Mr. Pink]
    #434912 - 10/24/01 02:14 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

bravo, run that exhaust straight to your green room then run it back to your blue room, if ya get what i'm saying


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Re: Cheap, automated monster terrarium idea with pics [Re: Mr. Pink]
    #434926 - 10/24/01 02:25 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

I can't see why it wouldn't work, sounds like a hell of an idea, thanks for explaining...if this works i'll definatly be attempting the same thing. If you wouldn't mind could you list the prices for materials and possibly post a picture of the hinged door on the side so I could see exactly how you have it rigged up.

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Re: Cheap, automated monster terrarium idea with pics [Re: Mr. Pink]
    #434928 - 10/24/01 02:27 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

damn thats fucking dope! i thought me setup was nice. keep us informed on how it goes.


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Re: Cheap, automated monster terrarium idea with pics [Re: TeRzMaStA]
    #434948 - 10/24/01 02:56 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

HEPA filter, walmart.......................................~40.00
Cool Mist Humidifier, walmart.........................~20.00
FL Gro Light, walmart....................................~10.00
(2)3' X 1' X 4.5' Shelf units, wmart................~30.00
(2)24 hour 4 position per Timers, wmart..... .~10.00
(4)Wheels, Lowe's......................................... ~8.00
Plastic sheeting 4mil, wmart...........................~ 2.00
Assorted Containers, removable tape, nuts..~10.00
Dryer Ducting, Lowe's...................................~10.00
Piece of mind from sterile, stealth (you'll see) box...........Priceless.

Total was about $140. It may seem really high, but to me it will be WELL worth it if it stops my trich problem. Besides, It will be a fucking massive sterile, mobile, self reliant treasure chest if it works.

EDIT: Fuck formatting this post, you get the idea...


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Re: Cheap, automated monster terrarium idea with pics [Re: Mr. Pink]
    #434958 - 10/24/01 03:11 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

thanks dude, I can't wait to see more pictures! :)


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Re: Cheap, automated monster terrarium idea with pics [Re: Mr. Pink]
    #434966 - 10/24/01 03:21 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

...ever see the movie.."E.T"? :wink:
but anyways - good job man.
what section of walmart did you find the plastic sheeting?
i swear i've combed that store 100x over just looking for every possibilty....that i can utilize in this hobby....weird...


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Re: Cheap, automated monster terrarium idea with pics [Re: Mr. Pink]
    #435086 - 10/24/01 08:35 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Great setup! I was thinking of doing the same thing but instead of building the whole chamber I was thinking of using a tent.It gets a little expensive but it saves time.Anyone ever try this.


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Re: Cheap, automated monster terrarium idea with pics [Re: Pigpen]
    #435108 - 10/24/01 09:55 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

140 bucks? shit man, you could almost buy a hydrapod for that much


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Re: Cheap, automated monster terrarium idea with pics [Re: Pigpen]
    #435116 - 10/24/01 10:15 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

You could try it but I'm guessing poly/plastic would work better because a tent's fiber is breathable (if you mean using a camping tent, that is)


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Re: Cheap, automated monster terrarium idea with pics [Re: Mr. Pink]
    #435117 - 10/24/01 10:18 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Nice setup!
Anyway, your idea is not new but it's a excellent implementation of look-a-likes setups i've seen, you're doing a good job and all but i really like it simple and that's too much $ for a growing chamber. Nice but only if you have enough money... OH! and i'll bet you'll be free from contams this time ;))

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Re: Cheap, automated monster terrarium idea with pics [Re: MAIA]
    #435175 - 10/24/01 12:09 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

this setup looks brilliant. you seem to have really thought it through and put a lot of work in.

it is truly unbelievable, that a mega setup like this costs significantly LESS than one hydropod!


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Re: Cheap, automated monster terrarium idea with pics [Re: 40oz]
    #435204 - 10/24/01 12:59 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Hey man, that plastic sheating is normaly used for and called painter's tarp. It's good shit and mostlikely will be in the paint section (the monkeys round here go to home depot)......... anyhoo...... Mr.Pink, nice set up . aint duckt tape the shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii?????? heheh ;)

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Re: Cheap, automated monster terrarium idea with pics [Re: BrownPastures]
    #435267 - 10/24/01 02:14 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

In reply to:

140 bucks? shit man, you could almost buy a hydrapod for that much




LOL, have you seen how SMALL a hydropod is? You'd be lucky to get a half oz from that little paint bucket. Think about yields and piece of mind and this will pay for itself with the first flush.

Thanks everyone for the postive comments. I agree that 140 is a bit steep, but if you cut corners here and there you could get it down to less than 100 no prob. IMHO that is a small price to pay for piece of mind, automation and stealth.

I will be back later with more updates, later shroomery.


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Re: Cheap, automated monster terrarium idea with pics [Re: Mr. Pink]
    #435338 - 10/24/01 03:11 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

I didnt reads the whole post , so i dont know if anyone mentioned anything about light distribution, i mean if you have all thoose sevelves filled with trays then will enough light reach to the bottom shelf, dont what to be pesemistic but, just wondering if you have though of this.


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Re: Cheap, automated monster terrarium idea with pics [Re: gusb232]
    #435349 - 10/24/01 03:18 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Actually, I have considered the lack of light to the bottom shelfs. Since cubensis will grow in almost complete darkness it is pretty low on the list of concerns at the moment. Thanks though...I always enjoy pessimism. It allows me to make sure I have all the bases covered.


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Re: Cheap, automated monster terrarium idea with pics [Re: Mr. Pink]
    #435410 - 10/24/01 04:14 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Assuming you dont have 30 trays in the same phase they will be easy to rotate.. Or my llamas would think.....
And about the front, why not just use velcro and 4mm plastic... Then my llamas have a full piece the entire length of the terr. That works wonders for them!!!!!!!!!!


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Re: Cheap, automated monster terrarium idea with pics [Re: shroomme]
    #436102 - 10/25/01 03:23 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

you got it up and running yet bro? I can't wait to see what kind of results you get.



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Re: Cheap, automated monster terrarium idea with pics [Re: gusb232]
    #436113 - 10/25/01 03:37 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

regarding the light problem.. why not use some mirrors?


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Re: Cheap, automated monster terrarium idea with pics [Re: ByaKKo]
    #436119 - 10/25/01 03:54 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Looks rad..Make me one ;-)


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Re: Cheap, automated monster terrarium idea with pics [Re: Grenade01]
    #436217 - 10/25/01 08:20 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

What's up guys...there's been a slight delay in my project. It seems all the local wally worlds have ran out of that model shelf.

Right now I am entertaining the idea of using some more plastic sheeting on an old poster roll attached by velcro with some extra material that can attach to a hook on the wall above my oven. It would be sort of a massive hot box/flow hood where I could open the terrarium without fear of contams. Wadda think??

BTW, mirrors aren't really an option as they can cause hotspots and I am shooting for a uniform temp. Mylar or white paint would suffice, but then I lose the advantage of sight.

I am still trying to brainstorm so any input would be great. Later...


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Re: Cheap, automated monster terrarium idea with p [Re: Mr. Pink]
    #436284 - 10/25/01 10:29 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

AWESOME idea. Any thought on disguising this thing to make it look like a piece of furniture or something somewhat common? I have guests over a lot and it would be nice if it just blended right in. I==


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Re: Cheap, automated monster terrarium idea with p [Re: dickthebeast]
    #436301 - 10/25/01 11:02 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

I hope you plan to write this up in a nice detailed HTML file when you're done pink. =)


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Re: Cheap, automated monster terrarium idea with p [Re: MycoDorkus]
    #436380 - 10/25/01 12:35 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

dickthebeast: When this "creation" is done, it will blend right in. You'll see. BTW, Are you a rather burly guy named richard or do you engage in beastality? J/K... Your name has me confused lol :)

Myco: No fucking way man :), this is the extent of my generosity. If someone else feels like doing it....go right ahead. I have enough HTML to do for school.


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Re: Cheap, automated monster terrarium idea with p [Re: Mr. Pink]
    #436633 - 10/25/01 05:27 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

I am actually a big burly guy (6' 220lb. of muscle) named Richard. Everyone thinks im some sicko until they see me. Then they get to know me and realize they were right all along. But to answer your question Dick is not a verb in the name. CAN'T WAIT TO SEE IT WHEN ITS FINISHED, I'm gonna make one over Xmas break, and probably put together an HTML file at the same time on angelfire with all the credit going to you.


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Re: Cheap, automated monster terrarium idea with pics [Re: BrownPastures]
    #437365 - 10/26/01 04:23 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

thanks BP...ill check it out.

any updates Mr. Pink?


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Re: Cheap, automated monster terrarium idea with pics [Re: Mr. Pink]
    #438106 - 10/27/01 12:55 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Wow, I went to Wal mart a few weeks ago and got the exact same shelf along with the 4 mil plastic sheeting. I covered the shelf with plastic and sealed it with duct tape. I have a cool mist into a garden hose which runs into a 2 way splitter and one tube goes into the top and another in the bottom.
Only problem is opening and closing the flap. I used duct tape at first but then it tore the plastic, so I put a layer of duct tape down on the plastic and then put the sealing layer of duct tape on that tape so it wouldnt tear the plastic. But this can be a pain especially when opening it every day or two. What do you use to get in and out?


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Re: Cheap, automated monster terrarium idea with pics [Re: ]
    #438415 - 10/27/01 10:12 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

tape little magnets into the plastic :)


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Re: Cheap, automated monster terrarium idea with p [Re: Mr. Pink]
    #438618 - 10/27/01 05:05 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

you must have lots of free time dude, no offense. this thing looks cool


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Re: Cheap, automated monster terrarium idea with p [Re: gaastra]
    #438880 - 10/27/01 11:00 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

LOL, what kind of shit is that? "You must have lots of free time, no offense" ha ha. That's like saying "Can I tell you something, but you have to promise not to get mad".

"Ok, but that's a hard thing to promise.."

" I fucked your sister."

Grrrrrrrrrrrr....

Don't say something stupid like that and cover your ass with "no offense".

Yeah, Maybe I'm, a little cranky tonight. Maybe it's because I can't get any fucking painkillers because of the pathetic scheduled society we live in even though my wisdom teeth are growing into my jawbone and I can't open my mouth...

...or maybe my coolmist ran out of water because my timer broke and dried out/wrecked all my tins.

Who knows? Don't mean to pick on you gaastra, I think I just needed to vent. But really man, think before you open your mouth. My friends entire setup took about two hours to build and two hours to brainstorm. He made it because he DIDN"T have time to fan a bunch of cake tins four times a day every day. Believe it or not, he has other things to do besides for babysitting cake tins full of fungus. Thanks for your 2 cents though, have a nice fucking night.

I''ll update this thread soon with some more pictures since I obviously have nothing better to do....



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Re: Cheap, automated monster terrarium idea with p [Re: Mr. Pink]
    #440951 - 10/29/01 07:10 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Back again ..... not much to report though. Most of my casings dried out so I deep scratched 'em. Nothing left to do but wait it out...grrrrrrrr.

After getting the terrarium operational I have noticed some little quirks. When the coolmist kicks on from the timer, it inflates like a huge plastic pillow. Observe pic 1



Ignore the dates, my camera is fucked up...

When the exhaust fan kicks on, it sucks all the plastic sheeting in, so it is obviously evacuating all the terrariums air.



It's kinda hard to tell from the pics, but the difference is drastic.

Even though most of my casing dried out, two BRF ones are doing great. All my ryes casings are stalled. Any ideas why? The BRF seem to love the conditions in the terrarium, as I got a nice pinset from them even though they were stressed majorly. Here is a pic..



One thing I have noticed with this project is that the coolmist cannot produce anything over 72% humidity if left running constantly. It seems that it works best when cycled on about 6 times a day. So much for 1-3 air exchanges per hour, it kills humidity. Right now I have it set so that the HEPA, cool mist and exhaust fan turn on at the same time, about 6 times a day. It seems to be working for now.

Any thoughts or comments?


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Re: Cheap, automated monster terrarium idea with p [Re: Mr. Pink]
    #441094 - 10/29/01 09:09 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Rad setup man.
Are those B+?
Awesome, awesome. I wish I had the money/time/space to make one..


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Re: Cheap, automated monster terrarium idea with p [Re: Brugman]
    #441104 - 10/29/01 09:23 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Hey brugman....actually, these could be either EQ, Puerto Ricans or Treasure Coast. Like a Dumbass I mixed up my casings without labeling them. I am pretty sure they are EQ though.

BTW, this setup really doesn't take that much time/space/money to get going. At first the initial investment seems large, but I am sure it will pay for itself real quick :).


LOL, I remember the pic where your avatar orginated. "Hi, I'm going to kick your ass.......and get away with it."

Fucking cops.......

/unzips fly.....


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Re: Cheap, automated monster terrarium idea with pics [Re: Mr. Pink]
    #441248 - 10/29/01 11:08 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

This sounds suspiciously like an idea that I can combine with my creation, for the future setup (Current is 36"x18"x48", future is 96"x18"x72") But my setup is currently @ $63 without hepa filter, and the new one is gonna be a wee bit more (about 400 after tax, sturdier shelving unit, expandable, galvanized stainless steel instead of wood / plastic, and custom creation)

Current setup:




Wooden shelving unit from Canadian Tire: $30.
4 shelves, 60"x36"x18" total assembled
3 usable shelves, top unusable (Except outside shelf)

0.35 mm, 10'x25' plastic dropsheet, Black: $8
Tarped around 4 sides and the top, one side 2x
Bottom is open
Finishing nails / tacks holding into place
Wraps around, one side twice (Will understand in a few moments)

Zipper: $10
On front of tarp, there is a 'zipper' you can get at some paint / home repair stores. This zipper has strong adhesive on one side. You put it where the plastic is one layer thick, run the length (Floor to top while the zipper is closed and the adhesive is exposed), and flatten it against the plastic dropsheet. Then open the zipper, and cut open the insides (Including single layer of the dropsheet)... Outter layer turns into a "Shield" layer... I don't tape it down, as I don't find I need to (At least I don't THINK so)

Lighting: $15
IKEA has these neat little halogen bulbs, normally under kitchen cabinets or inside of glass cabinets / thingies, bulbs attach on the underside of a shelf / whatever... 2 bulb assemblies to the set...

Air exchange:
HEPA filter, Walmart, 40, into the system at the top. Dryer piping to the top of the system. It's plugged into a timer, 15 min on, 2 hour off, repeat constantly throughout the day / night. Light is attached to a 4on, 20off timer.

Topmost (usable) shelf is 6" from top of system, 1 tray of perlite, 2 old shirts / blankets underneath to catch / disperse dripping water.

Air incoming on top, outgoing on bottom.. bottom of system is directly on the floor, store jars there in darkened area (no light)

I'd like suggestions on how to improve this... I'm going to work on creating a larger area (96"wide, 18" deep, 72" tall), and hopefully mass-producing...


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Re: Cheap, automated monster terrarium idea with pics [Re: Freezen]
    #456283 - 11/12/01 08:07 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Back again... This time with bad news. FOAF had some recent attacks of paranoia (they ARE out to get him dammit!). Some really close calls before the terrarium was finished (read: Not stealth) and recent events with other drug related forums has him doubting his safety and ditching his projects. What a sad society we live in, but alas....it is all he has. What a compromise life is.

Anyway, last I knew he had switched to an ultrasonic humidifier because the cool mist was drying the hell out of the casings. The problem reversed so he played with timer settings until a comfortable level was reached. This idea turned out to be quite self-suffcient. He left home two days and came back to perfect conditions, however there was a slight puddle on the bottom of the "unit". Perhaps a drain tube is in order.

Here are some pics..don't make fun of the pathetic casings. They were an after thought to test the terrarium. They seem to like it though...









The last three on the right were an experiment with forced overlay and deep scratching. Results were promising until big brother came into the picture and he freaked and tossed 'em. What a waste of time :(


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Re: Cheap, automated monster terrarium idea with pics [Re: Mr. Pink]
    #456322 - 11/12/01 08:34 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Right now, my cat is in the process of building a similar setup, but instead of plastic sheeting, she bought some lucite acrylic sheets to silicon to the shelves, along with hinges and weatherstripping to make a airtight door. It seems like it will be more stable and won't flap or suck in when the fan or humidifier comes on. As soon as my cat is finished building it, I'll post the picks for her(she's not good with keyboards).


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Re: Cheap, automated monster terrarium idea with pics [Re: Mr. Pink]
    #456541 - 11/12/01 11:37 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

dude so what's the deal again? why are you getting so paranoid? it's a damn shame to not be able to put such a kick ass looking project to waste....:(


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Re: Cheap, automated monster terrarium idea with pics [Re: Snobrdr311]
    #456591 - 11/13/01 12:19 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

He had some calls that were WAY too fucking close for comfort, so he overreacted. Better to be safe than sorry. I am sure he will make sure his terrarium doesn't go to waste though

He has other friends who might visit through proxies and different usernames in the future, who knows?


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Re: Cheap, automated monster terrarium idea with pics [Re: Mr. Pink]
    #456983 - 11/13/01 02:56 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

WTF????
i have THE SAME exact "grow room"!!!!!!!
check out my user posts..."grow room idea".
and by the way the exact same gauge you have too!!!
i guess great minds think alike.


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Re: Cheap, automated monster terrarium idea with pics [Re: Mr. Pink]
    #457006 - 11/13/01 03:16 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

hey, wassup?? i have the exact same grow room being created right now. check my user posts for "grow room idea"
i was thinking of adding some filter patches to the sides of mine. but mine is 21.5 cubic feet of grow space. the damn digital humidity gauage (same as the one you have in the picture doesn't read above 80 or so...damn thing just says HI.
i bought a martha stewart off season portable wardrobe closet, which comes with a plastic slip cover and zips up the front. it totally encloses the shelf system and i just zip and unzip. (itook the plastic cover out of the box and returned it to the store for a refund so it was free. hell i give wally world enough money i just consider it a customer appreciation gift) who thought martha stewarts tight ass would ever be contributing to the cultivation of our wonderful freinds!!!


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Re: Cheap, automated monster terrarium idea with pics [Re: XAZIA]
    #457021 - 11/13/01 03:39 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Hey XAZIA, I PM'ed you. BTW, I didn't steal your idea (not that you are implying that). My feeble mind just conglomerated a whole bunch of other great ideas into his own frankenstein. It's Alive!


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Re: Cheap, automated monster terrarium idea with pics [Re: Mr. Pink]
    #457111 - 11/13/01 05:26 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Mr. Pink:
Just a thouhgt. Do you need an exhaust fan? It seems that that might be drying out your terrarium. Why not just have the hole stuffed with poly fill? It seems that the heavy CO2 would be pushed out when the air/humidifier kicked on.


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Re: Cheap, automated monster terrarium idea with pics [Re: Mr. Pink]
    #464547 - 11/20/01 03:20 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

so how's everything going Mr. Pink? are you still in bussiness with this project or has it been retired totally?
I'm interested to know how it came along and what improvements you've made since last updating us...i'm most likely going to be attempting this very same style of growing chamber.


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