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Invisiblethe_Landotter
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Casing A Casing?
    #4328279 - 06/23/05 01:32 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Say, folks... after a casing has gone through three or four flushes, with each flush progressively weaker/less than the last, and the coco coir has shrunk and the whole thing is looking all wrinkled and pathetic, is it possible to take that sad old casing, crumble it up into a new pan and pack in a thick layer of fresh coco coir over top, thus starting the whole glorious process over again?

Has anyone done this? Are there contamination risks?

Speak, denizens of the Shroomery! Share your wisdom!


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Re: Casing A Casing? [Re: the_Landotter]
    #4328287 - 06/23/05 01:33 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

High contam risk, and it probably wont fruit... think about it man, all the nutes are already gone.


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Re: Casing A Casing? [Re: the_Landotter]
    #4328292 - 06/23/05 01:34 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

After a casing has gone through three or four flushes it will be full of acidic metabolic wastes, more prone to contamination, and almost out of nutrients. Why not just throw it out? Bird seed is cheap and jars are easy to make...I guess if you want to fuck around with all that for a shroom or two....


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Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
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Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Invisiblethe_Landotter
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Re: Casing A Casing? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4328316 - 06/23/05 01:38 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Sooo... what yer saying is the mycelium WON'T colonize the fresh coir, and even if it did the nutrient base would be so meagre as to not make it worth it. But... wouldn't there be fresh nutrients in the fresh coir, though? How does mycelium do it in the wild?


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Re: Casing A Casing? [Re: the_Landotter]
    #4328326 - 06/23/05 01:42 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Coir has no nutrion..how do they do it in the wild? A cow goes an shits on top of the "casing", or the mushrooms release spores which travel and find nutrients, and grow new casings....you could take spore prints, make new jars, and begin the cycle again just like nature...


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"life is like a drop of rain getting closer and closer to falling into a lake, and then when you hit the lake there is no more rain drop, only the lake."

Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Invisiblethe_Landotter
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Re: Casing A Casing? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4328334 - 06/23/05 01:45 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks folks... all good info.  This is what I love about the Shroomery... answers like *that*!  :wink:  All gnosis, no waiting...


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Re: Casing A Casing? [Re: the_Landotter]
    #4370725 - 07/05/05 01:18 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

what about using it for an outdoor tek with some fresh dung and straw?


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Re: Casing A Casing? [Re: BenKenobi]
    #4370744 - 07/05/05 01:27 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

BenKenobi said:
what about using it for an outdoor tek with some fresh dung and straw?




*Cough*Highly acidic metabolic wastes that contams love *Cough*

Acually...

I do it all the time. Just don't take it seriously and hope for the best.

Just plant and go and hope a bit.

I've gotten about an ounce from outside over the past couple of months...

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Re: Casing A Casing? [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #4371179 - 07/05/05 03:56 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

jesus didn't die on easter, he rose from the dead on easter


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