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Nitrous is safe.
    #4328208 - 06/23/05 01:17 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

There was a thread that was locked earlier, because it was intended to cause drama. Now, I think this was fair, but the thread was also started by someone who was spreading a drug myth, and there was a minimal attempt made to correct the misinformation. In these cases, I think it's best to make sure that the facts are clearly stated, and the record is set straight, instead of letting someone go on believing bullshit, and just getting angry about the whole thing.

Nitrous is still used in dentistry and medicine as a general anaesthetic, and for a good reason; it is very, very safe.

Because nitrous oxide is inhaled, it is sometimes lumped together with other inhalants, like huffing solvents, even though nitrous IS NOT A SOLVENT, and does not act in the same way or even have similar effects. None of the dangers associated with solvent abuse are a problem when it comes to nitrous oxide.

It is a little sad that some people discriminate against others for using a drug like this without bothering to check their facts first, but hopefully if we do our best to present the correct information to people, this can be avoided in the future.

The following is taken from the Erowid nitrous oxide vault at http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/nitrous/nitrous_health.shtml


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Nitrous oxide has been safely used as a mild anesthetic for over 150 years. Problems with its use come primarily from carelessness. Potential problems include :

* Brain injury and suffocation can result from lack of oxygen. When used as an anesthetic, nitrous is always administered in combination with oxygen. Never use nitrous in any manner that does not provide for adequate oxygen intake.

Note that it is not necessary to feel shortness of breath or a sense of oxygen deprivation in order for the body to be dangerously short of oxygen. The sensation of being unable to breathe comes as a result of unusually high levels of carbon dioxide (CO2) rather than low levels of oxygen. Because of this, people who inhale pure nitrous oxide or other gases do not have the sensation of being unable to breathe, despite not getting enough (or any) oxygen. It is quite possible to suffocate while breathing pure nitrous oxide without ever feeling discomfort or a shortness of breath.

o Never strap a gas mask to your face while using pure nitrous as it is possible to black out and die from lack of oxygen.
o Never use a garbage bag as a delivery device. It is possible (and has happened) to black out and suffocate when the bag falls over the nose and mouth.
o Never open a tank of nitrous in a sealed room, closet, car, or other space.

* Very cold temperatures of the gas can freeze the lips and throat if taken directly from a tank or whippit. Releasing the gas into a balloon first allows the gas to warm before being administered.

* High levels of pressure may rupture blood vessels in the lungs and force air into the chest cavity, causing the lungs to collapse. This is primarily a problem when nitrous is being administered directly from a tank or other pressurized container. Again, releasing the gas into a balloon first eliminates this risk.

* Heavy and frequent nitrous use can deplete vitamin B12 in the body and lead to serious and unpleasant neurological problems. Users may experience tingly fingers and toes, or in more severe cases, numbness of all extremeties. Taking B12 supplements, especially in combination with multi vitamin and complete amino acid supplements, may help alleviate this problem. If you experience these symptoms, cease nitrous use immediately and if the symptoms persist, seek medical attention. See Nitrous & B-Vitamin Dangers.

* Careless use of nitrous oxide can also cause nausea, vomiting, and disorientation, primarily from inhaling too much, too soon.

* Since nitrous produces a temporary loss of motor control and dissociation, it's extremely unwise to inhale it while standing or while in any situation where unconsciousness is dangerous.

* Some users of nitrous report headaches and generalized discomfort for an hour or more after inhalation.

* Nitric Oxide, a toxic industrial gas, is occasionally mistaken for Nitrous Oxide. Users should be careful they know what they are inhaling. Inhaling Nitric Oxide can permanently damage the lungs or kill.


* Olney's Lesions: there is little to no evidence that Nitrous Oxide use causes the brain lesions described in William White's "This is your Brain on Dissociatives" and, without further evidence, this hypothesis should be considered invalid for Nitrous Oxide.





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Re: Nitrous is safe. [Re: Phluck]
    #4328222 - 06/23/05 01:18 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Great post dude. :thumbup:  I was wondering about what the straight facts were.


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Re: Nitrous is safe. [Re: Phluck]
    #4328228 - 06/23/05 01:20 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

:thumbup:

Yeah calling Nitrous an "inhalant" is pretty silly, and very misleading.

Great post!


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Re: Nitrous is safe. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #4328233 - 06/23/05 01:20 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

No problem.
Now, I wonder if anyone is man enough to apologize for calling us all idiots...


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Re: Nitrous is safe. [Re: Phluck]
    #4328237 - 06/23/05 01:21 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

:smirk:  We'll just have to wait and see.


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Re: Nitrous is safe. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #4328242 - 06/23/05 01:22 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

i feel bad the drama post was created because i bought a whole bunch of chargers, which i shared wiht my friends last night after our bbq :smile: we had a good time. and a safe one


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Re: Nitrous is safe. [Re: ZippoZ]
    #4328246 - 06/23/05 01:23 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

The drama post was created because of all the pictures and discussion of nitrous at the NE2K5 gathering, not you.


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Re: Nitrous is safe. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #4328258 - 06/23/05 01:27 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

If my memory is correct, that wasn't the first post about Nitrous by the same poster. I seem to remember at least one other during the previous week where he tried to call Nitrous "inhalants" :rolleyes:


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Re: Nitrous is safe. [Re: trendal]
    #4328259 - 06/23/05 01:27 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Oh yeah, that's true.


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Re: Nitrous is safe. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #4328265 - 06/23/05 01:29 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

yeah deff good post man. good clarification for the uninformed  :thumbup:


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Re: Nitrous is safe. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #4328267 - 06/23/05 01:29 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

hmm how in hells name did i miss a post about nitrous at the ne2k5 ...


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"in times of widespread chaos and confusion, it has been the duty of more advanced human beings - artists, scientists, clowns, and philosophers - to create order. In such times as ours however, when there is too much order, too much m management, too much programming and control, it becomes the duty of superior men and women and women to fling their favorite monkey wrenches into the machinery. To relieve the repression of the human spirit, they must sow doubt and disruption"

"People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."


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Re: Nitrous is safe. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #4328270 - 06/23/05 01:30 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Pray tell, who is this ? :smirk:


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Re: Nitrous is safe. [Re: TYL3R]
    #4328278 - 06/23/05 01:32 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Is it the first "Related Threads" at the bottom of this page ?


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Re: Nitrous is safe. [Re: Phluck]
    #4328281 - 06/23/05 01:32 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Phluck said:
Now, I wonder if anyone is man enough to apologize for calling us all idiots...




I'll be surprised if this happens :rolleyes:


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Re: Nitrous is safe. [Re: TYL3R]
    #4328282 - 06/23/05 01:33 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Yes.


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Re: Nitrous is safe. [Re: TYL3R]
    #4328294 - 06/23/05 01:34 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

It's safe , so long as it's mixed with oxygen like at the dentist. No one who uses it for recreational uses mixes it with O2 , and starving your brain of oxygen to get high is a bad thing.


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Re: Nitrous is safe. [Re: Phluck]
    #4328298 - 06/23/05 01:35 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Good Post :thumbup:

Misinformation = Bad


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Re: Nitrous is safe. [Re: MaJikFungus]
    #4328308 - 06/23/05 01:37 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I doubt a single hit of nitrous results in hypoxia, any more than holding your breath for 30 seconds or so.

Continuous use of nitrous (say, with a mask) without adding 20% O2 will result in hypoxia fairly quickly, though.

Single cartridges are probably fine.


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Re: Nitrous is safe. [Re: MaJikFungus]
    #4328317 - 06/23/05 01:39 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Which is why you don't strap yourself top a mask attached to a tank of pure n2o, taking a breath from a balloon won't hurt you, so long as you breathe ie. take a breath, hit the balloon. It's not hard.

Same deal with smoking pot, you wouldn't hold your hit in for very long, because you do need to breathe.


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Re: Nitrous is safe. [Re: gdman]
    #4328320 - 06/23/05 01:40 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

When I'm low on pot, I hold my hits in till I can't stand it anymore.


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