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d33p
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ChiefThunderbong said: You didn't even come close to proving a single thing with that last post. All your doing is spouting off pro-drug propaganda and doing a very poor job of proving your case. $10 says your addicted to marijuana and don't want to admit it. However, I agree with your overall idea that marijuana is a good thing, as long as you don't let your use get out of control.
Being proven wrong does not call for you lying and calling me an addict.
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mushiemountain
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This is more caused by not having anything else to do but hang around and smoke i assume.
Thats really not a good excuse. If you have nothing to do with yourself besides get high, maybe you should take up some hobbies or get a job.
I have lots do with myself besides getting high. I play basketball, play guitar, skateboard, and many other things. I don't just sit around all day smoking. I still maintain good grades in school as well, and getting stoned every day has not affected me in anyway, and has not brought addiction upon me.
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ChiefThunderbong
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Lol, I'm glad you fixed that cause it was confusing as hell before.
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Well the reason I smoked every day is not because I was addicted, because I'm not.
So it shouldn't be hard at all for you to stop smoking till you move out of your parents house.
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It was simply because of what d33p mentioned, we have nothing really to do.
Like I said, get some new hobbies....I wish I had used my time more constructively when I was in highschool.
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My other drug use was not lead on by marijuana. I first started drinking and I wanted to try mushrooms before ever trying to puff on some weed. But one night while drunk I smoked and have ever since.
I never ment to say all of your problems were cause by weed. And I never ment to say all people use drugs because of marijuana. I'm totally pro-marijuana. Like I said in my first post, if your going to keep smoking invest in a firesafe (somethin like $50) so your parents can't take your stash. Thats how I solved the room-search problem.
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ChiefThunderbong
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Re: Parents and Advice [Re: d33p]
#2935072 - 07/27/04 11:42 PM (19 years, 6 months ago) |
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You proved me wrong? So far we have pretty much agreed on everything, except you refuse to admit that marijuana can cause any problems.
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ChiefThunderbong
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It was simply because of what d33p mentioned, we have nothing really to do.
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I have lots do with myself besides getting high. I play basketball, play guitar, skateboard, and many other things.
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d33p
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ChiefThunderbong said: You proved me wrong? So far we have pretty much agreed on everything, except you refuse to admit that marijuana can cause any problems.
You said i did not even come close to proving a point. You thought pot is a "gateway drug" for an absurd reason. I stated why one could not argue that point and i explained the media's reason for calling it a "gateway drug" and also why that reasoning is flawed. That in my book was a point. I just assumed you would have recognized this even though you said the opposite which would make you a lier.
Pot does have the capicity to cause mental addiction but realistically no more than coffee, foods, or etc. The only problem associated with pot is that it is prohibited.
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Re: Parents and Advice [Re: d33p]
#2935157 - 07/27/04 11:59 PM (19 years, 6 months ago) |
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An absurd reason? I think I have an extremely valid point. You explained your reasoning for the media's reasoning for calling pot a gateway drug and why that is flawed.....but still, my reasoning is extremely valid. I still don't see where you proved me wrong, at all. Quote:
Pot does have the capicity to cause mental addiction but realistically no more than coffee, foods, or etc.
I can't speak for everyone here, but for me pot is a lot more enjoyable than coffee or sugar or food, therefor making the mental addiction quite a bit more powerful. The only non-drug I can see being as (or more) addictive would be sex. edit - fixed the bold tag
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d33p
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ChiefThunderbong said: An absurd reason? I think I have an extremely valid point. You explained your reasoning for the media's reasoning for calling pot a gateway drug and why that is flawed.....but still, my reasoning is extremely valid. I still don't see where you proved me wrong, at all.
Prohibition is the only reason why people interact with the black market of drugs. Hence, it being a "gateway drug" in that sense has nothing to with pot or chemicals contained within it. It is a product of its prohibition. Why do you not understand?
If anything buying pot off the black market would be a gateway experience to buying other drugs. It has nothing to with the drugs themselves.
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ChiefThunderbong said: I can't speak for everyone here, but for me pot is a lot[/] more enjoyable than coffee or sugar or food, therefor making the mental addiction quite a bit more powerful. The only non-drug I can see being as (or more) addictive would be sex.
I've used nearly everything under the sun at this point in my life and being 100% serious the hardest thing to quit throughout my whole life was diet coke. I feel that i never became addicted to meth, herion, alcohol, pot, etc; but i was a diet coke addict. No joke.
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Re: Parents and Advice [Re: d33p]
#2935269 - 07/28/04 12:37 AM (19 years, 6 months ago) |
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Prohibition is the only reason why people interact with the black market of drugs. Hence, it being a "gateway drug" in that sense has nothing to with pot or chemicals contained within it. It is a product of its prohibition. Why do you not understand?
If anything buying pot off the black market would be a gateway experience to buying other drugs.
I do understand, and already said I completely agree with that. IN fact, thats exactly what I said (or tried to say). However, since we can't make prohibition go away it IS still an issue.
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I've used nearly everything under the sun at this point in my life and being 100% serious the hardest thing to quit throughout my whole life was diet coke. I feel that i never became addicted to meth, herion, alcohol, pot, etc; but i was a diet coke addict. No joke.
Sounds like you have more will power than the average person. Do you still use drugs?
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d33p
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ChiefThunderbong said: I do understand, and already said I completely agree with that. IN fact, thats exactly what I said (or tried to say). However, since we can't make prohibition go away it IS still an issue.
An issue with prohibition, not pot. We both understand it. It seems so damn simple to me. There must be some way to educate the masses about the horrors of prohibition. You calling pot a "gateway drug" is a step in the wrong direction. At least say "buying pot off the black market is a gateway experience which can lead to use of other drugs." Sure its not quite simple as saying "gateway drug" but often most things cannot be summed up in 2 words.
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Sounds like you have more will power than the average person. Do you still use drugs?
Yes.
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Re: Parents and Advice [Re: d33p]
#4327437 - 06/23/05 01:39 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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yea, the strongest addiction i have ever had in my life is Mountain Dew. I think i would consider myself addicted to marijuana if i didnt choose to do it every time and love it so much. I can't choose whether or not to have mountain dew. I need to have it when i wake up or else i simply dont function. If i can't find any i resort to yucky coffee or i take excedrin pills containing caffeine. I smoke about a half 8th daily of only the kindest, most potent herb around(I shop around the many mj dispensaries here in southern cali seeking out the best of the best), along with all kinds of hash and oils, and I eat cannabis food products throughout the day. I use it medicinally and it works wonders for my ailments. Even if i am a "marijuana addict", it doesnt matter much to me because i dont plan on ever being without it.
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just because you love something and want to do it all the time,doesnt mean your addicted to it,it means you just love to do it.i skateboard all the time and love doing it,am i addicted to it
Edited by unearth (06/23/05 10:05 AM)
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ChiefThunderbong said: I hate to be the one to say it, but a lot of what they are saying is true. Marijuana IS addictive. Smoking once every two weeks does lead to smoking everday, and more often than not marijuana does lead to other drugs.
I don't want to come off as an anti-drug person or anything, I just don't like when people pretend that drugs are perfect and don't cause any problems. My advice is to buy a small fire safe, and don't give them a key. Sentry sells a real nice model that has the circular lock (almost unpickable), they won't be able to search it and it holds all smell inside. Of course they could just pick it up and take it, unless you bolted it to the floor. Or you could just stop using drugs for a while and try to start some more constructive hobbies.
or maybe they like it so much they decide to smoke it everyday,ever think of that.
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