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    #4325083 - 06/22/05 04:06 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

In this new age spirituality (with energies, spheres etc. ) sexuality is often celebrated as being something not just corporial but beyond, so things like "sexual energy" are mentioned, sexuality is attributed to spirits (not just bodies) etc.

I wonder, does eating have a spiritual component too? Are tomato stains spiritual? Is there such a thing as "eating energy"? Is there a chakra for stomach growling?


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Re: eating energy [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #4325099 - 06/22/05 04:10 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Sure tomato stains are spiritual. In fact nothing is more spiritual, or less.

Sex is a powerfull manifestation of the life force, aka, creative energy. That's why some say sex is spiritual.


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Re: eating energy [Re: Icelander]
    #4325108 - 06/22/05 04:13 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Eating is too. If you don't eat you die, the urge to eat is a life force

I think they say it because sex feels good, and that is just a way to incorporate it into the whole spirituality thing.

P. S. actually EVERY time you eat you bring energy into your body which you use to exist and move around, but like I said in the other thread, sex is used as a life force only a couple of times in your life, the rest of the time it is simply pleasure and has nothing to do with life growing and multiplying and stuff like that


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Re: eating energy [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #4325146 - 06/22/05 04:24 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

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Eating is too. If you don't eat you die, the urge to eat is a life force

I think they say it because sex feels good, and that is just a way to incorporate it into the whole spirituality thing.

P. S. actually EVERY time you eat you bring energy into your body which you use to exist and move around, but like I said in the other thread, sex is used as a life force only a couple of times in your life, the rest of the time it is simply pleasure and has nothing to do with life growing and multiplying and stuff like that




Yes, eating is too. But I have to disagree with your P.S.

If you know of Tantra practice you can have non-ejaculatory orgasisms. This can move energy or life force in the body/mind/spirit, and can have a transformational effect on people in many ways, but one concete one would be better physical health. Health is strong life force.


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Re: eating energy [Re: Icelander]
    #4325169 - 06/22/05 04:31 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Well you can count every positive sideproduct of sex, but that is not why people do it.

Do people look at each other and say: "hey baby, let's move our internal energy and become healthier"? Or do they simply feel the desire and do it without thinking about how spiritual it is?


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Re: eating energy [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #4325175 - 06/22/05 04:32 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Where do you think the idea of blessing food came from before people ate it? The blessing was meant to purify the energy before it was consumed.

Many say prayers of appreciation for the food they are about to eat it in recognition that it's energy sustains the body.

The energy of food consumed is very much recognized by religious, spiritual, new agey types.

Looking around, I think more people put more time and prep into blessing and appreciating the energy of food then they do that of sex.

Who likes dirty and impure food? Many enjoy dirty and impure sex.

I thinks its a misnomer to think more emphasis is put on sexual energy over that of food energy.

People can take up to an hour or more preparing a food meal to be consumed. How much time do people put into preparing the sexual energy to be consumed?


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Re: eating energy [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #4325197 - 06/22/05 04:36 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Sexual energy comes from food. You eat to have energy for all the muscule movement during sex.


By the way, what is "dirty and impure" sex? Sex in a mudpit? I think most people clean before having sex, at least in river watter (i assume)


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Re: eating energy [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #4325230 - 06/22/05 04:45 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

> Sexual energy comes from food.

And foods energy comes from the release of excess binding energy when two atoms under go nuclear fusion in the sun... so by the same logic, sexual energy is nuclear powered.

> By the way, what is "dirty and impure" sex?

Any sex for purposes other than procreation... at least in the eyes of many churches.


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Re: eating energy [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #4325237 - 06/22/05 04:47 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Why do you think food was incorporated into Roman Orgies?

Look at Tantric Sex where couples will spend time preparing themselves energetically first, coming to a place of inner peace and harmony and into love where they then let the power of the love move them as One into united bliss.

Then, there are some who like say angry sex. They have just come from an upset and release that angry energy through sex into the other person. That would be an example of muddied sex. Or those who like to play dominatrix games where one is in power over another and love has nothing to do with it.

This isn't a morality thing, really, it just comes down to preferences and I think more people put more time and thought into the food energy they consume then the sexual energy they consume.

I thought your post was about why you thought people put more into sexual energy then food energy? I don't think that's the generalized case. Whats your evidense or reasoning for more emphasis being put on sexual energy consumption preparation then food consumption preparation?


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Re: eating energy [Re: Seuss]
    #4325246 - 06/22/05 04:49 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Yea, you are correct regarding energy. And "sexual energy" is a special use of kinetical energy, it does not bring fresh energy, but it helps in distribution of existing energy (you feel good and active)


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Re: eating energy [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #4325260 - 06/22/05 04:51 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

you don't "consume" energy in sex. It gets transfered into heat, and usually it is hot so your body rejects the additional heat in the air around the bodies. the energy is transfered into the environment


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Re: eating energy [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #4325271 - 06/22/05 04:54 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

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Well you can count every positive sideproduct of sex, but that is not why people do it.

Do people look at each other and say: "hey baby, let's move our internal energy and become healthier"? Or do they simply feel the desire and do it without thinking about how spiritual it is?




As people change they may use sex for different reasons. (How would you know?) At least according to some Taoist texts. Weather they think of something as spiritual or not does not change the facts. Some people feel desire IS spiritual, my partner does for sure. I agree with her. :mushroom2:


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Re: eating energy [Re: Icelander]
    #4325286 - 06/22/05 04:57 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

What do aincient texts have to say about modern society and its habits and mindsets?


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Re: eating energy [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #4325299 - 06/22/05 04:59 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Some things haven't changed. As Mr. Natural sez, "Twas ever thus" :mushroom2:


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Re: eating energy [Re: Icelander]
    #4325309 - 06/22/05 05:01 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Well I think they have. Once people had 12 wives, and only had sex once in a year, now we use sex to sell Coca Cola, this HAVE changed


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Re: eating energy [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #4325320 - 06/22/05 05:05 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

I didn't know that everyone did that. :lol:


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Re: eating energy [Re: Icelander]
    #4325339 - 06/22/05 05:10 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

yea ALL salesmen offer you sex in exchange for buying a few bottles of Cocacola..


..of course I ment advertising (half naked bodies tempting you to dring Coke from their arms like a bird)


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Re: eating energy [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #4325346 - 06/22/05 05:11 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

That just shows you how powerfull sex energy is. :mushroom2:


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Re: eating energy [Re: Icelander]
    #4325393 - 06/22/05 05:18 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

don't make me open another thread about "sexual energy"...

I think I'll do just that, but later


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Re: eating energy [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #4325492 - 06/22/05 05:35 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Maybe you have never experienced consuming or being consumed sexually. Doesn't mean others don't know what i am talking about.

A lot of people use sex for an energy boost or lift.

Look at how sex is called things like delicious and yummy. Look at how much biting, nibbling and sucking goes on. If people could consume more then just energy out of sexual hunger and cravings they probably would swallow the other whole sometimes.

Ever feel like you want to be wrapped up within someone who is all consuming you?

look at how the Black Widow Spider actually eats her mate after sex.

If you want to reduce the sexual cravings, hungers and consumption of energy down to heat transfers, that's fine.

Many do walk away with an added "pep" in their step. Where did that extra energy come from?


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Re: eating energy [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #4325559 - 06/22/05 05:52 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Please explain this transfer of energy

someone has to lose energy for the other one to consume it. If what you say was true, then one would feel exhausted and other one would feel great.

Just becuase you feel better doesn't mean that you have consumed energy.
When someone tells you something that chers you up , that doesn't mean he gave you energy.

I don not understand the physics of this exchange of sexual energy you are talking about.


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Re: eating energy [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #4325828 - 06/22/05 07:00 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

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In this new age spirituality (with energies, spheres etc. ) sexuality is often celebrated as being something not just corporial but beyond, so things like "sexual energy" are mentioned, sexuality is attributed to spirits (not just bodies) etc.

I wonder, does eating have a spiritual component too? Are tomato stains spiritual? Is there such a thing as "eating energy"? Is there a chakra for stomach growling?




Sex is no more spiritual that eating, sleeping, shitting, or any other kind of physical or indeed mental activity. Its wheteher or not you include compasison, mindfulness and awareness whilst engaging in these activities, that determine whether they are conductive toward spritualty or not.

Of course, sexuality can be used as a powerful tool for spiritual practice if utilized properly.

As far as eating food goes, natural fruits, nuts and vegetables contain the best and most nurutious elements for our body, energy and mind. In my experience, eating too much meat without compasison and awareness generates much latent negativity which produces its resultant negative karma, that at some point, comes to fruition producing negative cirumstances such as physical illness.


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Re: eating energy [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #4326026 - 06/22/05 07:57 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

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Please explain this transfer of energy

When someone tells you something that chers you up , that doesn't mean he gave you energy.






How do you say something to someone that cheers them up without a transfer of energy to them? You have to send air through your vocal chords that send sound waves to their ears.

Even the heat transfer you reduced it to is a transfer of energy. Heat is energy.

Are you playing dumb wood to keep a discussion on sex going?

That doesn't mean another becomes depleted either. It's not like we have only so much energy given to us to use in life. We can regenerate as often as we want to.


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Re: eating energy [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #4326045 - 06/22/05 08:02 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

So when someone cheers you up, you are getting a kick out of the energy transfered through moving air or heat? The happyness is using chemical energy from food as its power source, you don't move your muscules out of energy that your ears recieve

And you still haven't explained how is it possible that both people feel better after sex after transfering "sexual energy"? IF there is a transfer of energy, someone has to lose it. Where do they both get this mystical energy? From the sexual plane or something?

You say they don't feel exhausted because they only transfer a part of it. But how do they both feel better than before? your explanation is that they both RECIEVED sexual energy, but from where.

And what in the world is sexual energy anyway? Do you mean kinetical energy of the movements, or chemical energy of the hormones, or what?


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Re: eating energy [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #4326197 - 06/22/05 08:51 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Wood, you posted asking why people don't treat eating food to be a spiritual act like some do having sex. I replied saying they do that's why grandma puts love in her home baked cookies and people bless and give thanks before meals.

I don't want to change your beliefs about sex. Keep them just as they are. If you are truly curious, google some web-sites on sexual energy and sexual energy exchange. Maybe grab some lovers and run some experiments and read some books.

How can I have a discussion on sexual energy with you when you say you don't even know what it is or acknowledge its existence?

Anyone can feel free to answer the questions he asked me. I was just interested in pointing out that people do treat food spiritually and I think they do that more so then sex. :heart:


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Re: eating energy [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #4326219 - 06/22/05 09:00 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Tell me, is there a way to convert sexual energy into electricity (all other forms of energy can be) so that we can power a household?


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Re: eating energy [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #4326270 - 06/22/05 09:24 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

I dunno man. When my husband and I met sparks were flying. Someone said us, "Woah, the elctricity shooting between the two of you could light up a room"

If you figure out a way to harness it for home use, let me know. Always looking for new ways to become energy efficient! :cool:

I was just thinking about how when you rub your feet on carpet static electricity builds up and you give a mini shock to the next person you touch. Rubbing up against carpets.....hmmmmmmmmmmmm :lol:


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Re: eating energy [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #4326290 - 06/22/05 09:29 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

of course, when the topic gets old turn it into a joke


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    #4326943 - 06/23/05 01:18 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

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