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found these in a interesting place ---need ID
    #4324852 - 06/22/05 01:14 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

I found these little mushrooms in a small cave opening about 2' wide and 1' high with large rock overhang. The cave was home to what i think to be a porcupine. They were growing out of the large amount of scat just inside the cave. The largest i collected was about 6cm but i could see some that were about 9-10cm. I should add that im in new england.



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Re: found these in a interesting place ---need ID [Re: steve055]
    #4324963 - 06/22/05 01:41 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

A print would help
I changed my post a little, cuz those are good pics  :thumbup:


happy hunting

Edited by LouiseLouise (06/22/05 01:58 PM)

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Re: found these in a interesting place ---need ID [Re: LouiseLouise]
    #4325033 - 06/22/05 01:56 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Those are beutiful. They look like P. azurescens!
Probably inactive. Take a sporeprint. The light brown gills are not common of mycenia species.

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Re: found these in a interesting place ---need ID [Re: steve055]
    #4325226 - 06/22/05 02:44 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Just wanted to add some pics of where they were found.



The white lines you see in the for-ground are quills, this area is very dark and it is hard to see the mushrooms while standing, i was on my knees for these shots.

Edit: spore print on the way.

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Re: found these in a interesting place ---need ID [Re: steve055]
    #4325327 - 06/22/05 03:06 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

they do look alot like p. azures.. do they bruise blue?

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Re: found these in a interesting place ---need ID [Re: hempknight]
    #4325349 - 06/22/05 03:11 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

those are some cool pics :yesnod:

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Re: found these in a interesting place ---need ID [Re: hempknight]
    #4325380 - 06/22/05 03:16 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

the brusing is hard to see on these small ones, it looks mostly dark brown, ill have to get a larger freash one to test.

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Re: found these in a interesting place ---need ID [Re: steve055]
    #4325888 - 06/22/05 05:15 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Take a spore print.

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Re: found these in a interesting place ---need ID [Re: Gumby]
    #4325929 - 06/22/05 05:27 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

thats such a cool ass spot. caves are awesome. there arent any in FL :frown:. nice pics man.


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Re: found these in a interesting place ---need ID [Re: steve055]
    #4326076 - 06/22/05 06:13 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Some new pics, i used a shovel to get these guys out. They where several feet inside cave, coloration is different. You can see spores on one of the pics they are a purple color, my spore print is on its way as well.






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Re: found these in a interesting place ---need ID [Re: steve055]
    #4326088 - 06/22/05 06:17 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

It does have a Psilocybe look to it.  But it doesn't appear to be bluing at all.  Could be one of the many inactive Psilocybes.
I'd guess coprophila but that is a cool find anyways.
:cheers: :thumbup:

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Re: found these in a interesting place ---need ID [Re: @cro]
    #4326103 - 06/22/05 06:21 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

the bottom pic on his last post looks like a pan


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Re: found these in a interesting place ---need ID [Re: @cro]
    #4326191 - 06/22/05 06:49 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

i agree, those might be a non-active specie of Psilocybe.

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Re: found these in a interesting place ---need ID [Re: GGreatOne234]
    #4326299 - 06/22/05 07:32 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

wow nice looks like P. azurescens

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Re: found these in a interesting place ---need ID [Re: iLoVeShRoOmS420]
    #4326461 - 06/22/05 08:23 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

They also have a galerina kind of look to them. Nice find though!!! Interesting spot. Caves can have some weird shit in them.

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    #4327188 - 06/23/05 12:30 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

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wow nice looks like P. azurescens




What the fuck? They look nothing like P. azurescens. If anything they resemble Panaeolus from a distance.

Now that that's out of the way, I'm 99% sure those mushrooms belong in the Psilocybe genus. I've no clue what they might be though. Any kind of clue what kind of dung that is they were growing from?

Especially seeing how you're in New England, it leaves me clueless to the species. Could be inactive, could be active... Who knows. I would encourage you to take those to a local mycologist if possible. They don't look like any species of Psilocybe that I'm aware of which grows from dung.

The only two Psilocybes I'm aware of that grow from dung are Psilocybe cubensis (duh!) and Psilocybe coprophila (inactive). Your mushrooms look like neither one. Neat.

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Re: found these in a interesting place ---need ID [Re: Gumby]
    #4328087 - 06/23/05 10:45 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

The dung is porcupine. It is very high in wood, mostly pine its main diet. You can see some in the last gill shot i posted. I got a spore print if it will help anyone. I'm guessing that the color is what was needed from it, not shape, and that question has been answered. Ill still post it though. I guess i can try the Metol test if it is really effective like what I've read. I wish i knew a local mycologist, ill ask around. Thanks for everyones help.

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Re: found these in a interesting place ---need ID [Re: steve055]
    #4328171 - 06/23/05 11:07 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

im thinking psilocybe coprophilia.

im also thinking porcupine scat might make a good substrate to try for some of the harder fruiters like psilocybe weilii.

all the good stuff from dung, plus wood, plus p coprophilia likes it (alot it would seem)

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Re: found these in a interesting place ---need ID [Re: Mitchnast]
    #4328307 - 06/23/05 11:36 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

If its diet is pine then the substrate should be acidic. Important little bit for ID i think. Psilocybe look, Psilocybe spore print. This could turn out to be pretty interesting.
Is the purple discoloration on the cap of the close-up (in the second set of pics) bruising or spore deposit?
Also, after seeing the rest of your pics, i think you have atleast 2, if not 3 species there.

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Re: found these in a interesting place ---need ID [Re: Lysergic_Milkman]
    #4328823 - 06/23/05 02:08 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

The purple is spore.

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Re: found these in a interesting place ---need ID [Re: steve055]
    #4359678 - 07/01/05 01:21 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Even if the mushrooms don't turn out to be what you're looking for that picture of the cave with all of them inside is awsome.


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