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Offlinedjsage420
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Potency of different types of rice
    #4324779 - 06/22/05 02:52 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I started growing straight from cased rye, I have never fruited a cake before, Im moving on to poo so Im mass producing jars, and Ive been thinking about making a smaller tray of cased rice cakes.
The last time I cased cakes I used pre made flour and they were not very potent. Ive been reading how grinding your own rice makes shrooms more potent and how wild rice is better than brown rice, my question is how much more potent will this make them is it worth grinding up or should I use pre bought flour and spawn it to horse poo?


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Re: Potency of different types of rice [Re: djsage420]
    #4324786 - 06/22/05 02:55 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

From my experience, the potency change is hardly noticable... 2 grams from pre-ground slour would give you the same trip as maybe 2.05g of flour you grind yourself.


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Re: Potency of different types of rice [Re: pcubmycol]
    #4324801 - 06/22/05 03:01 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Spawning to horse poo will definatly be best for potency IMO.


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Re: Potency of different types of rice [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4324836 - 06/22/05 03:10 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

from my own experience, i've never noticed a difference in mushroom potency using rice cakes. Rice wheather it is fresh, brown, or wild lacks nutes that your gonna wish you had later. I agree with scat... just use the horse poo.


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Re: Potency of different types of rice [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4324843 - 06/22/05 03:12 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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scatmanrav said:
Spawning to horse poo will definatly be best for potency IMO.




Yeah I agree. With cakes you can powder the colonized cakes to use as spawn. Powdered cakes will give you a lot of contact points for a fast horse poo colonization, and some potent mushrooms that you won't complain about. :thumbup:


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Re: Potency of different types of rice [Re: Hotnuts]
    #4329839 - 06/23/05 08:55 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Im in the midst of my 1st grow ever, I have 10 jars that are 1-2 days away from fully colonized using the pf-tek with brf from long grain brown rice grinded in a coffee grinder, I was planning on just fruiting them as cakes.
now im getting worried after reading some posts, that the potency is going to suck.  What should I expect in the way of potency? They're lipa yai from one of the vendors so I have full confidence that the spores are good. I'm assuming all the shrooms I've eaten before were grown on poo, I usually like to eat about 4 grams dry the least ive eaten was 2 grams, most was like 7 and I always got pretty looped, can I expect to trip off of my cake-shrooms, or should I try to spawn them to something with more nutes? again, this is my first grow, and Ive had good luck so far (jars colonized evenly and quickly and no contams yet) so I'm kinda scared to try anything more advanced at this point, but I'll do it if it 's the difference between trippin or not. thanks in advance for any answers :sun:


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Re: Potency of different types of rice [Re: Pink_buffalo2000]
    #4329912 - 06/23/05 09:12 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

You will definetly trip off the PF cake shrooms. My last batch of b+ were pretty damn stong. I had about a level 2.5 trip off of 13 g's wet! Thats not to bad IMO. The most anyone ate was 2.2 g's dry, and they were pretty looped for a good 3-4 hours. They were all grown in a chamber w/ perlite and a fish tank bubbler. As far as trying poo, go for it. My buddy just started did his first poo batch and he said it was pretty easy, after a little research. Good Luck w/ the grow bro! Peace :mushroom2: :gd_icon: :beer:


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Re: Potency of different types of rice [Re: Pink_buffalo2000]
    #4330218 - 06/23/05 10:26 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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now im getting worried after reading some posts, that the potency is going to suck. What should I expect in the way of potency?




I made that mistake when I grew on BRF.  Many people make it sound like they are not potent when grown on BRF and it can discourage you.  These thoughts caused me to take 3g dry when my grow was complete...big mistake.  I was completely gone.  The only person who could predict your mushroom potency is maybe Ms. Cleo with her crystal ball :whatever:.  Just ignore the negative attitudes and try them when they are done growing.  Every person who has tried my BRF shrooms has tripped their ass off at a dose of around 2g.


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Re: Potency of different types of rice [Re: Aiko Aiko]
    #4330224 - 06/23/05 10:28 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

thanks gobblin, (edit: and powertrip)you eased my mind alot. In that case I'll fruit 'em as cakes this time, if it all works out, then I'll move up to the next level.


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Re: Potency of different types of rice [Re: PowerTrip]
    #4330230 - 06/23/05 10:30 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Totally agree....am a "lightweight" low doser at 2 grams per trip myself.  I have been pleased with BRF potency as well, even though I am not currently using it...can you say POO?  :smile:


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Re: Potency of different types of rice [Re: oysterguy63]
    #4330792 - 06/24/05 01:02 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Cakes can certainly yeild some potent mushrooms, and it depends alot on your tolerance...but for BEST potency...you'll get it in horse poo. Conditions will also play a factor, as well as strain a bit.


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Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: Potency of different types of rice [Re: djsage420]
    #4330988 - 06/24/05 02:06 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

BRF made from whole grain works fine & will get you off.

But, some processed (quick cook type) brown rices, (Uncle Ben's - for example)have the husk & nitrogen removed. So, they don't produce much if any actives.


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Re: Potency of different types of rice [Re: agar]
    #4369742 - 07/04/05 05:17 PM (12 years, 25 days ago)

Hey i just grew B+ off BRF using pf tek and between two we had 40 grams wet, now we started drying them first about 12-15 hours on a fan and then desiccant but they wernt fully dry, they got to 9grams but then the time was right to trip so just ate them half dry ... so still it would be 20grams wet each .... cause we heard they would be stronger then shop bought stuff ... and nothing ... just a little stoned maybe a level one if even. So left it for 2 hours just to give it time, then had some good skunk and WAHEY a lovely stoned with slight visuals :smile:

was great but still yea the potency was terrible... that was off bought brown rice flower out of a health food store, i also have B+ drying that was made on balti brown rice that i ground myself... fingers crossed :smile:


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