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A.A. not just alcohol anonymous anymore...
    #4320353 - 06/21/05 12:56 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

it should stand for Another Addiction.IMO

the people "i" have seen at these meeting are "all about it"! they have to have something to consume there thoughts and time, so as to not re-lapse..? but in return create yet another addiction?


think so? :heart:


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Re: A.A. not just alcohol anonymous anymore... [Re: uriahchase]
    #4320358 - 06/21/05 12:58 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

"Another Addiction"

Actually two. Cigarettes and coffee.


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Re: A.A. not just alcohol anonymous anymore... [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #4320361 - 06/21/05 12:58 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

LunarEclipse said:
"Another Addiction"

Actually two. Cigarettes and coffee.





that shits funny!!


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Re: A.A. not just alcohol anonymous anymore... [Re: uriahchase]
    #4320446 - 06/21/05 01:26 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

but is that really such a big problem? being addicted to AA won't cause liver cirrosis or DUIs. most people have some type of hobbie or "addiction" they depend on for psychological relief but as long as that addiction isn't slowly killing them its not seen as something overly negative.


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Re: A.A. not just alcohol anonymous anymore... [Re: Deviate]
    #4320470 - 06/21/05 01:34 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I find the AA particularly sad bunch becuase they dont actually cure anyone of the alcohol addcition. If they were really cured they would'nt need to stick around in a room together talking about how long they have gone without alcohol would they?


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Re: A.A. not just alcohol anonymous anymore... [Re: Sinbad]
    #4321194 - 06/21/05 05:01 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

the flaw in the program is that everytime u go you have to say "hi my name is ----and im "an alcoholic" ?????? evenm 10 yrs after?


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Re: A.A. not just alcohol anonymous anymore... [Re: uriahchase]
    #4321216 - 06/21/05 05:08 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

You are uninformed. This organization has helped many people.


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Re: A.A. not just alcohol anonymous anymore... [Re: uriahchase]
    #4321234 - 06/21/05 05:15 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I have gone to A.A. meatings. They can be very powerful and a help to many. And what you say is also true. It's very easy to avoid core issues in A.A. Like any system it's imperfect and in the end up to the individual to change themselves. It's a tool, it can be used well or poorly.  :mushroom2:


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Re: A.A. not just alcohol anonymous anymore... [Re: Icelander]
    #4321254 - 06/21/05 05:22 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

My view also.


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Re: A.A. not just alcohol anonymous anymore... [Re: uriahchase]
    #4321533 - 06/21/05 06:49 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

uriahchase said:
the flaw in the program is that everytime u go you have to say "hi my name is ----and im "an alcoholic" ?????? evenm 10 yrs after?




Wow! Really? I never knew that! Its quite obviousthat they have no effective methods for dealing with the psycological aspects of alcoholism, if they are still doing that after ten years. They should be working to rid the place of alcoholics, not accumulate them, so they can all sit around feeling like victims in prison. This greatly lowers my opinions of AA.


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Re: A.A. not just alcohol anonymous anymore... [Re: Sinbad]
    #4321712 - 06/21/05 07:38 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Hey, how was the time off? I cured myself of alcoholism and unlike AA philosophy dictates...I AM NOT AN ALCOHOLIC. I changed through force of will by accepting responsibility for my actions. It is, however, undeniable that AA has helped millions of people live normal lives. Some people respond to the social atmosphere it creates. It has a 5% success rate, so for these people it is obviously a good thing...looking down one's nose at what one sees as an inferior philosophy is immature.


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Re: A.A. not just alcohol anonymous anymore... [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #4321983 - 06/21/05 08:43 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Hi, I am Swami, and I am a postaholic. It has been 33 seconds since my last post...


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Re: A.A. not just alcohol anonymous anymore... [Re: Swami]
    #4321989 - 06/21/05 08:44 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Hey...sometimes I go days without posting...I can do it....


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Re: A.A. not just alcohol anonymous anymore... [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #4321993 - 06/21/05 08:45 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

...I don't have to post...I can make it...


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Re: A.A. not just alcohol anonymous anymore... [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #4321999 - 06/21/05 08:46 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I'll start tomorrow....yeah...tomorrow..


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Re: A.A. not just alcohol anonymous anymore... [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #4322021 - 06/21/05 08:49 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

:lol:

I hear ya. This rejoinder is not really necessary, nor am I compelled to do it. It is just because I WANT TO not because I HAVE TO! I can quit anytime I choose.


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Re: A.A. not just alcohol anonymous anymore... [Re: Swami]
    #4322179 - 06/21/05 09:16 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

We could start an online support group...but how would we support each other if we couldn't post?


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Re: A.A. not just alcohol anonymous anymore... [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #4322188 - 06/21/05 09:18 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

telepathy. :grin:


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Re: A.A. not just alcohol anonymous anymore... [Re: Icelander]
    #4322639 - 06/22/05 12:01 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Tell AA about that technique...you could also advise them that (according to wikipedia) LSD treatments are about 5 times more effective at treating alcoholism than AA in the long term. It might up their membership.


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Re: A.A. not just alcohol anonymous anymore... [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #4322933 - 06/22/05 01:18 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Isn't it true that the founder of AA used LSD to break his alcohol habit and then went on to create AA? I think that is correct. :mushroom2:

The telepathy bit was really for Swami's benefit. :grin:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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