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Re: mucousal or mystical? [Re: Asante]
    #4318186 - 06/20/05 08:22 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

a clean ass deserves raised eyebrows
otherwise a most indignant glance would be suitable.

more needs to be revealed.
we are so in the dark


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Re: Evidence Suggesting Consciousness Is An Emergent Property Of Complex Biology... And Not Mystical [Re: Ped]
    #4318191 - 06/20/05 08:23 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

That complex models such as human beings are subject to the same governing influences as more simple models like objects or computer games: how does this in any way eliminate the idea of a mystical quality to conciousness? That conciousness may in fact be an emergent property of complexity: how is this not the among the most mystical ideas ever pondered?

By mystical I mean supernatural, metaphysical, magical... as in an incorporeal soul that cannot be described by an equation, cannot be detected, and is exempt from the rules of physics.

I agree that conciousness is an amazing thing, but it is a function of ordinary physics and not metaphysics, or so the evidence so far suggests.

People like to ask where does beautiful art come from if it can't be described by an equation. I say it can't be described by an equation yet and point to the beautiful Mandelbrot fractal that is arguably as beautiful as any artwork, but 100% a function of an equation. There is no magic involved.

Check out the Barnsley Fern. It too is 100% ordinary, non-magical mathematics:



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Re: mucousal or mystical? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #4318218 - 06/20/05 08:35 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

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a clean ass deserves raised eyebrows
otherwise a most indignant glance would be suitable.
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more needs to be revealed.
we are so in the dark





dammit Redgreenvines. I'm a writer and I REALLY admire posts like that one you made. You've got it down to an artform.  :heart::thumbup:


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Re: Evidence Suggesting Consciousness Is An Emergent Property Of Complex Biology... And Not Mystical [Re: Diploid]
    #4318766 - 06/20/05 11:31 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

I don't know if you are reading my old threads, channeling the Swami energy, or if we just think alike, but I have previously brought up both the Boids program and posted a picture of the Barnsley fern.

Hmmm...


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Re: Evidence Suggesting Consciousness Is An Emergent Property Of Complex Biology... And Not Mystical [Re: Swami]
    #4318981 - 06/21/05 12:30 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Must be the mind-control...


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Re: Evidence Suggesting Consciousness Is An Emergent Property Of Complex Biology... And Not Mystical [Re: Diploid]
    #4319673 - 06/21/05 05:56 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

what happened to the epidemic
of nicholson avatars
that was proof of something.


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Re: Evidence Suggesting Consciousness Is An Emergent Property Of Complex Biology... And Not Mystical [Re: redgreenvines]
    #4319703 - 06/21/05 06:39 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

The Nichol-virus has a life of 48 hours.


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Re: Evidence Suggesting Consciousness Is An Emergent Property Of Complex Biology... And Not Mystical [Re: Swami]
    #4319738 - 06/21/05 08:03 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

you must be Nichol-Kidding man.


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