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 pcubmycol
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 PE and Terrence McKenna 
#4317164 - 06/20/05 01:30 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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A couple of weeks ago i posted a reply in Hippie Chicks thread "I have 5 friends MIA" about Terrence McKenna creating the amazing strain of cube Penis Envy.
Thread located here... http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...ID=#Post4317139
A few people were skeptical saying that McKenna never created any strain and i posted links to prove this...
http://www.mycotopia.net/discus/messages/5/28664.html?1086318333
Thread about PE on mycotopia
https://ssl1.flarehosting.com/antihangover/order.asp?he=1
Look at PE here
Does anyone have any information regarding how McKenna came up with PE. What process he may have used to make this trip so beautiful, what strains he may have used together, or what single strain this may have origonated from? Although i highly doubt something like PE could have came from a single strain being slectively bred over time. Or how the hell he got it to produce fruits with stems thick as hell, fruits that weigh 3.5g dry only being 4 or 5 inches long when fresh?
If anyone has ever read McKenna's theory that mushrooms came from another planet, and that one out of 10 billion spores would be viable for space travel... Id say PE was the one from some other planet.
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Re: PE and Terrence McKenna [Re: pcubmycol]
#4317227 - 06/20/05 01:58 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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Well you said yourself he thinks it's from another planet. You can't just create a strain.
I've seen some Terrance McKenna videos and his theories are pretty interesting, he thinks that all spores are from Aliens and such. He probably just discovered it himself.
It's weird though I've never heard him mention PE, he always iterated that Mexicube was his fav strain.
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Re: PE and Terrence McKenna [Re: kronnyQ]
#4317323 - 06/20/05 02:27 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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wtf. are you guys serious? *puts on tin foil hat*
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Re: PE and Terrence McKenna [Re: Mych]
#4317453 - 06/20/05 02:57 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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I heard him talking about originating PE, I'm pretty sure it was on one of these: http://mckenna.psychedelic-library.org/
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Re: PE and Terrence McKenna [Re: Kalix]
#4317585 - 06/20/05 03:45 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'm with mych. "give me my hat mych,"
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Re: PE and Terrence McKenna [Re: thremix]
#4317957 - 06/20/05 05:23 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah I believe he did create the PE strain. Towards the end part of his life, he was living in hawaii cultivating endangered plant species, I would wager that it was some time while he was in hawaii that he developed it. If you have ever listened to terrence mckenna talk, you know that he has a very strong chemistry/biology background, and i wouldn't put it past him to make a strain. You can hybridize mushroom strains and genetically alter them with *relatively* basic lab materials. Basic as far as lab materials go that is... one could use colchicine or other chemicals to mutate, or other mechanical means of hybridizing strains through implanting dna ... I'm not an expert on the subject so if everyrthing I said is complete crap then don't listen to me =).
AHHH there we go I was looking for this: "Well it is a mutant mushroom in a sense. This one was developed by the famous entheogenic mycologist/enthobotanist and psilonaut Terence McKenna, God bless his resting spirit." That's from www.hawkseye.com in the penis envy section of their spore prints/syringes if anyone wants to check it.
By the way all my friends who grow HIGHLY recomend hawks eye. You can't beat the reliability and price. Even if you get a bad syringe, they track it down and replace it. They are really great. I am also not affiliated with them in any way.
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pcubmycol
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Re: PE and Terrence McKenna [Re: lemunhed]
#4318091 - 06/20/05 05:47 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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i wouldnt be suprised at all if McKenna took a cube from hawaii and "hybridized" it in some way.
or maybe it was just the aliens...
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Re: PE and Terrence McKenna [Re: pcubmycol]
#4318118 - 06/20/05 05:57 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
pcubmycol said:
i wouldnt be suprised at all if McKenna took a cube from hawaii and "hybridized" it in some way.
There are no cubensis that are native to hawaii...
not even the hawaiian strain is really from hawaii.
and he probably didn't have the equiptment to hybridized any.
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Re: PE and Terrence McKenna [Re: Roadkill]
#4318198 - 06/20/05 06:26 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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I did a lil' reading, and found some web page that said he 'found' PE growing in South America, and just printed it.. So I gues technically he just John Allen'd it 
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Re: PE and Terrence McKenna [Re: Kalix]
#4318772 - 06/20/05 09:32 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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Oooh really.... seriously though check out the hawks eye. Unless ryche is totally off base, which is hardly ever the case in my experience.
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Re: PE and Terrence McKenna [Re: Kalix]
#4319791 - 06/21/05 06:55 AM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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From my research... and you really should ask mjshroomer since I believe he reintroduced PE to the public after it had vanished for a while... mj will at least, confirm THE's story.
My understanding is PE just happened on agar, when McKenna was working with some cube spores he printed in the Amazon.
McKenna always thought mushrooms were masculine entheogens, so I imagine he was quite delighted by stumbling upon the PE strain.
I'm pretty sure the original cube looked more or less normal, and it was from the Amazon... PE was born in a lab, on agar... and, it was a happy accident.
PE is BY FAR, my favorite cube strain.
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Re: PE and Terrence McKenna [Re: Rose]
#4320203 - 06/21/05 10:18 AM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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Is the PE trip really that great? ive been trying to decide between PE and KSSS, but ive heard reports of PE being apt to mutate.
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Re: PE and Terrence McKenna [Re: yousuck]
#4320420 - 06/21/05 11:17 AM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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Wow, I really didnt think anyone grew PE. Im gonna have to get me some of that!
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Re: PE and Terrence McKenna [Re: Rose]
#4320467 - 06/21/05 11:34 AM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
Cervantes said:
PE is BY FAR, my favorite cube strain.
For what reasons? I hear it is potent. I thought it was more of a novelty strain.
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pcubmycol
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Re: PE and Terrence McKenna [Re: blackout]
#4320604 - 06/21/05 12:29 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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thanks for all the great info on McKenna and PE. Its my favorite strain because of the journey it takes you on. Definately not a favorite for things such as fast colonization, or fruiting patterns. It is also my favorite because of how dense the fruits are.
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Rose
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Re: PE and Terrence McKenna [Re: blackout]
#4321576 - 06/21/05 05:02 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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Look, cubes are cubes...
And a cube trip is a cube trip.
PE is not the best strain for BULK grows... but you do get a good yield... and each shroom is THICK and HEAVY. Prints are worth their weight in gold.
But, it is fucking odd... and funny... growing little dicks, that get hard when dried...
I mean, come on! The commedy writes itself!
Potent? Yes. More potent than other cubes... doubtful... but I guarantee eating such an odd shroom will impact your trip... so will knowing it is McKenna's strain. PE does help put me in a Shamanistic mindset... but I'm 99.44/100% sure it is just a mindset thing.
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Re: PE and Terrence McKenna [Re: yousuck]
#4321650 - 06/21/05 05:22 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
yousuck said:
Is the PE trip really that great? ive been trying to decide between PE and KSSS, but ive heard reports of PE being apt to mutate.
Ironically, KSSS is MORE apt to mutate... PE itself IS a mutation... it usually looks like a dick.
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Re: PE and Terrence McKenna [Re: pcubmycol]
#4321852 - 06/21/05 06:06 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
pcubmycol said:
or maybe it was just the aliens...
Nope... we had nothing to do with it  Honest!
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Re: PE and Terrence McKenna [Re: Shdwstr]
#4322168 - 06/21/05 07:13 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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McKenna was an intergalactic mushroom salesman. That is all. 
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just curious, what is the usual distribution of psilocybin in the stem vs the cap. Perhaps this trip appears stronger then others because the psilocybin is more concentrated in the large stems. Thus 3 grams of PE, mainly being stems, would be more potent then 3 grams of something else. That is my hypothesis, any proof/disproof?
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