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OfflineBilly1111
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    #4314509 - 06/19/05 07:37 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Over the past 5 years or so I have kinda pulled outta society a bit...I mean I go to work and stuff like that and have friends but I enjoy spending alot of my time alone wondering about what going on here...is there such a thing as enlightenment??? stuff of that nature....i can't help pondering this this stuff because i enjoy it that much....

I have thought much on the subject of love and have come to a conclusion that there is such a thing but it is not what we have been brought up to think it is....People like to fragment love into diffrent types mother-child, husband-wife etc etc...I believe now these are projections of what we think it should be...and thats why an incredible amount of relationships fail these days because people mistake love for other stuff .......

The real "love" (lets just call it that) is the same between a mother-child as it would be between to complete strangers....
LOL I talk some people about this and they think I have lost my marbles!!!!...maybe I have :smile:any views on this?


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Re: Love [Re: Billy1111]
    #4314528 - 06/19/05 07:39 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Check out my sig :heart:


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Re: Love [Re: Billy1111]
    #4314531 - 06/19/05 07:40 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Love is an abstract notion that means I will help you instead of kill you. It is an emotion that was created out of biological imperative. Without love mankind would extinguish itself.


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Re: Love [Re: Billy1111]
    #4314921 - 06/19/05 09:38 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I post about love also and am sure many think I'm pretty silly/naive. And in some ways I am. Anyway I think also many people mistake desire or attachment or need, for love.

The definition of love I like includes the word unconditional in front of it. Unconditional love is complete unto itself. Many people think that unconditional love does not allow one to disagree or even get angry. I think it does. And it accepts what is without condition and knows that at the core everything is an aspect of itself. This includes EVERYTHING.

I cannot in any way prove this. I believe it because one day for about 6 hours I experienced it. From that day forward my life was altered and in brief moments, to some degree, I am able to live that love now, in my day to day. It has become the benchmark for all my striving in this human form.

Since I realize that I can know nothing for sure. I have chosen love to believe in because it feels so good. And that's my two cents. :heart: :grin:


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Re: Love [Re: Icelander]
    #4314936 - 06/19/05 09:45 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

How can you give unconditional love to a person who uses your good will as a tool for betrayal at every turn? How do you give unconditional love to someone who threatens your existance? I like the concept of unconditional love, but there are many bugs in the code.


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Re: Love [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #4314950 - 06/19/05 09:51 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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Huehuecoyotl said:
How can you give unconditional love to a person who uses your good will as a tool for betrayal at every turn? How do you give unconditional love to someone who threatens your existance? I like the concept of unconditional love, but there are many bugs in the code.




This is how I do it. I recognize that there personality structure is not the totality of who they are. I unconditionally love the creative nature that resides at the center of being, which I believe is the ultimate Tao, while dealing with the actions of that person appropriately. I don't mistake their actions for their totality.

If I had to kill them in self defense, I could do it without hating them, ect.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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Re: Love [Re: Billy1111]
    #4314975 - 06/19/05 09:57 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

No four-letter word can ever hope to come close to describing the state of mind that "love" is supposed to define.  :smirk:


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Re: Love [Re: trendal]
    #4315046 - 06/19/05 10:24 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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trendal said:
No four-letter word "love" :smirk:




Rimes with "love" doesn't it?


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Re: Love [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #4315050 - 06/19/05 10:25 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Huehuecoyotl said:
How can you give unconditional love to a person who uses your good will as a tool for betrayal at every turn? How do you give unconditional love to someone who threatens your existance? I like the concept of unconditional love, but there are many bugs in the code.




How do you bend over to pick up a coin? You just do it


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Re: Love [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #4316055 - 06/20/05 04:28 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

"I don't mistake their actions for their totality."

That is very hard to do, but it is the ideal.

"If I had to kill them in self defense, I could do it without hating them"

I understand this concept, but from a different perspective. Hate and anger can blind one's judgement so totally that one puts one's existance in jeapardy.


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Re: Love [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #4316242 - 06/20/05 08:37 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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OldWoodSpecter said:
Rimes with "love" doesn't it?




*rhymes  :smirk:


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Re: Love [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #4316246 - 06/20/05 08:41 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I understand this concept, but from a different perspective. Hate and anger can blind one's judgement so totally that one puts one's existance in jeapardy.
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This is a good point and illustrates the survival benefit of unconditional love. In a loving state one is very calm and can always make the best survival choice. :thumbup:


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Re: Love [Re: Billy1111]
    #4316796 - 06/20/05 01:33 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I have come to believe that what we refer to as love is actually the interaction between personality structures.  Heartbreak, unrequited love, obsessive love, and the like are clumsy attempts by our ego to act on the Love Force.

My best guess is that Love, or Life Energy, is the motivating and organizing force within all entities.  This sacred fire burns eternally, and is not subject to the petty relationship squabbles humans engage in.

My quest in life (Love) is to release my attachment to love (lowercase "l") and surrender to True Love.  The wonderful, magical gift I've been given is a partner who is on the same path.  The way we love (and Love) each other inspires me every day.  :loveeyes:

There is no doubt in my mind, sweet Icelander...you're the one!  :heartpump:


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Re: Love [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #4317085 - 06/20/05 02:59 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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Huehuecoyotl said:
How can you give unconditional love to a person who uses your good will as a tool for betrayal at every turn? How do you give unconditional love to someone who threatens your existance? I like the concept of unconditional love, but there are many bugs in the code.



Heh, you could try to repeat someones mantra 'hate the sin, love the sinner' and continue to be betrayed, or you could kill him instantly for saving humankind of evil and so practice true unconditional love...

:grin: sorry couldn't resist.. because that is also a total mistery to me

edit: I think something in the middle will do the trick ?!:crazy2:


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