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Got Rye Berries Last night..... (First time)
    #4310715 - 06/18/05 01:54 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Finally!! the only health food store in my town has gotten their shipment of rye berries! i got 10 lbs. for less than $10. I am starting to suspect that there is someone else that is cultivating here in my town, because the guy said that there was another guy askin' about em' and it's wasn't me.... so i told the owner to order extra next time so that i'll never be without,
  so anyway (babble) i immediately started soaking 3 lbs. and tonight when i get home i am gonna simmer... 30 min. sound good?  i simmered wbs for 1 hr. and they all exploded. last night i simmered for 30 min. and they all exploded?  I hear that rye doesn't take that long to absorb water?  anyone got any helpfull hints for me?  i am new to grains.  been a pf man for 7 yrs.    :evil:


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Re: Got Rye Berries Last night..... (First time) [Re: Oatman2000]
    #4310749 - 06/18/05 02:08 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

make sure by simmer you mean very few bubbles coming up to the surface. you want a very loooooowwww simmer


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Re: Got Rye Berries Last night..... (First time) [Re: lowdominion]
    #4310752 - 06/18/05 02:10 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

should i turn it on high... wait for steam to rise. then turn it on low? i'm not a chef... so simmer isn't in my vocab. LOL


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Re: Got Rye Berries Last night..... (First time) [Re: Oatman2000]
    #4310755 - 06/18/05 02:13 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

on my stove the proper setting is between medium and low of course yours will vary you just want to see a few small bubbles coming up per second you don't want a fast hard simmer and definetely not a boil


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Re: Got Rye Berries Last night..... (First time) [Re: lowdominion]
    #4310804 - 06/18/05 02:32 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Simmer, is not a rolling boil...just slightly bubbling. WBS should be fine after 20-30 minutes. Rye is fine for 30-60 minutes on a good simmer. Rye holds more water then WBS. If fruiting off the grain, try a mix too...soak some WBS for 24 hours next to rye (use like 75% rye, 25% birdseed)...then after both soak for 24 hours...strain the WBS and simmer the rye....when you simmer the rye for 30-60 minutes and you just see one or two kernals here or there look like its ready to pop, turn off the stove and drain the rye with the WBS...mix it all up together and then load into jars. Add a little verm while straining to help soak up some extra water too...check out my grain link for more info on grains for fruiting off of. If your just spawning...WBS works fine...or a mixture again..but more like 25-50% rye only instead of 75%. IME, WBS works well for spawning, rye works well for fruiting..either will do both, and a mixture is best for both (but reversing the ratios depending on what your doing).

Hope I didnt confuse you there..


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Re: Got Rye Berries Last night..... (First time) [Re: lowdominion]
    #4310805 - 06/18/05 02:32 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

awesome... usually i don't just watch the pot simmer... but i should... that way i can see when 5% of the seeds have cracked.
-I hear straining after the simmer is the key to success... i have 2 colanders that i use one, to get all the slime off of, but it sticks to the collander. then i transfer the wbs to the next collander to sit,a nd "air dry" before placing into jars. Acceptable?


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Re: Got Rye Berries Last night..... (First time) [Re: Oatman2000]
    #4310833 - 06/18/05 02:42 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

>Acceptable?

Impossible to say, it depends on a lot of factors, the seed, how long soakd and simmered, if rinsed, temperture of water you rinsed with, shape of colondars, if you just let it sit there or toss the grain while its straining, ect ect ect....

Go to the grain link:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/4024831/an/0/page/0

And check out that strainer and my advise on straining (pay attention to the not rinsing and letting it steam off part)..


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Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: Got Rye Berries Last night..... (First time) [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4311187 - 06/18/05 05:28 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

i just picked up 50 lb. of rye grain for $19 from a farm store.


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Re: Got Rye Berries Last night..... (First time) [Re: drugsaregood]
    #4311476 - 06/18/05 07:16 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I get 50 lb bags of winter rye at the feed store for $11.


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Re: Got Rye Berries Last night..... (First time) [Re: agar]
    #4311490 - 06/18/05 07:21 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

there was also 50 lb of millet was $13... I never seem to find the CHEAPEST, but $18.51 was okay for me. It's hard finding farm shit nearby where I live in the middle of downtown.


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Re: Got Rye Berries Last night..... (First time) [Re: drugsaregood]
    #4311493 - 06/18/05 07:22 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Millet is a darn good spawn.


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Re: Got Rye Berries Last night..... (First time) [Re: agar]
    #4311494 - 06/18/05 07:23 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

that's why I got it... I don't know where to find horse poo around here. will cow+verm work ok?


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Re: Got Rye Berries Last night..... (First time) [Re: drugsaregood]
    #4311503 - 06/18/05 07:31 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Aged h/poo is 5000% better than cow/steer manure.
Try to find a source of weathered h/poo.
You will NEVER regret it - once you have.


H/poo should look like this:


It should crumble & look like this.


This is what a ton of it looks like (shredded)


Cow shit doesnt have the fiber content, is generally to hot & thrives with unwanted bacterial activity.


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Re: Got Rye Berries Last night..... (First time) [Re: agar]
    #4311509 - 06/18/05 07:33 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I read a post about NYC horse poo from the police or carriage rides... That same stuff is in my city so I should start looking now before my grains get going.


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Re: Got Rye Berries Last night..... (First time) [Re: drugsaregood]
    #4311512 - 06/18/05 07:33 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

i have not used poo before, and am slowly learning... i read about black kow... it comes pre pasturized. This type of poo is not available where i live, but finding poo is hard. I bought a 40lb. bag of compost/manure for $3.00.  Will this work? and do i have to pasturize first....?:confused: i just got all new appliances and i kinda have a prob with boiling manure on my new stove....  :puke:


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Re: Got Rye Berries Last night..... (First time) [Re: Oatman2000]
    #4311514 - 06/18/05 07:34 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

ha, yeah I'm kinda anal (pun intended) and hadn't looked forward to working with shit


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Re: Got Rye Berries Last night..... (First time) [Re: drugsaregood]
    #4311520 - 06/18/05 07:38 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

i would like to get a bag of that black kow :ass: to add to my substrate pieces before casing.... i have seen a great video on this, and i would imagine it would work wonders....  check out the video's at
www.sunlightsheds.com
they have 2 great mushroom vid's that also help you into describing contams.


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Re: Got Rye Berries Last night..... (First time) [Re: Oatman2000]
    #4311526 - 06/18/05 07:38 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Store bought bagged manure most often ends in utter failure. Sometimes it will work, but very very seldon. Depends on whats in it & how it was made.


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Re: Got Rye Berries Last night..... (First time) [Re: agar]
    #4311531 - 06/18/05 07:41 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

so in Big City, USA, where can city folk find good horse poo?


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Re: Got Rye Berries Last night..... (First time) [Re: agar]
    #4311534 - 06/18/05 07:42 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

i asked too i was like :  "what animal does this come from"  that was dumb, the lady looked at me like i am a shit inspector. do you think local stables get alot of calls about picking up their horses poo? i live in the city, but my small farmtown i grew up in is only 30 min away.  (should i give advanced notice to my picking up poo) or should i black ski mask it "GIVE ME ALL YOUR POO, AND NO ONE GET'S HURT!!!)  :guns:


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