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OfflineMindzpore
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ftalates
    #4306870 - 06/17/05 09:48 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

ok, there are alot of brainy people on this site, and i hope someone might know anything about this.

i was talking to one of my friends, and to make a long story short. we spoke about growing in plastic bags and plastic trays.

he informed me about about something called ftalates, its a softener for plastics and is present in most soft/bendable plastics.

the problem with these ftalates is that they easily migrate and transfer to edibles if in contact. apparantly they will store in the body and is suspected to cause some really bad stuff (cancers etc). also it is known to cause birthdefects in ones children (especially genital defects).

now does anyone at this board know about ftalates, and would they transfer from tray/bag through the myc to the carp?


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Re: ftalates [Re: Mindzpore]
    #4306892 - 06/17/05 10:15 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I don't know much about them but I found this...

Used as basic material of plastic toys, ftalates turn out to be harmful to liver...

Children who often suck on puppets and teething rings, absorb ftalates.

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so don't suck on your plastic casing trays!~

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Re: ftalates [Re: Roadkill]
    #4320333 - 06/21/05 12:49 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

well, thats the whole issue. if eating the shrooms that grew in them is the same as sucking on them.


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Re: ftalates [Re: Mindzpore]
    #4320369 - 06/21/05 01:01 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Its doubtful very much...


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Re: ftalates [Re: Mindzpore]
    #4320543 - 06/21/05 02:03 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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Mindzpore said:
also it is known to cause birthdefects in ones children (especially genital defects).




So that's what all this P.E. discussion is about  :tongue:


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Re: ftalates [Re: lardnar]
    #4320709 - 06/21/05 03:01 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah I also think that as we PC them at 121 C at 15 PSI somekind of polypropylen mixed with the stuff and also the mushroom.
I don't know if it can cause a health issue but there is also no reason to think as why not.


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Re: ftalates [Re: barisk]
    #4320731 - 06/21/05 03:07 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Personally I don't pc my plastic containers (although I know some do) I use jars for grain and then case in the plastics. I doubt there is migration but I could be wrong. I am not a chemist just a mycology hobbyist. ENJOY


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