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O.K. I'm no longer panicking..
    #4304107 - 06/16/05 04:51 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

My PF casing is stalling. It's going into it's 4th flush, there are no signs of contams, and for the 1st 3 flushes, after harvest I dunked it in cold water for an hour or two, and got pins either the day after, or two.. But now I'm on my fourth day.. I'm starting to get worried. It is in a fruiting chamber with A poo casing, that is completely spawned, and starting to poke myc through the casing layer, and neither will fruit! I've been trying to fruit the poo casing for like 12 days.. The fruiting chamber is 74 degrees, and from 70-89% humidity... I've been keeping it close to 70, I mist my casings daily,
They get 1-3 hours of fresh air every day. Both of them smell like nothing but myc..

Do I have anything to worry about besides my lack of patience?


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Re: Help! I'm panicking [Re: Kalix]
    #4304124 - 06/16/05 04:55 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

don't panic.

the one that's flushed three times is probably spent. you should be pretty happy with it!
the poo one is probably pinning as you read this. go check. anyway, give it another week before worrying.

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Re: Help! I'm panicking [Re: shirley knott]
    #4304228 - 06/16/05 05:12 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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shirley knott said:
don't panic.

the one that's flushed three times is probably spent. you should be pretty happy with it!
the poo one is probably pinning as you read this. go check. anyway, give it another week before worrying.

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  I just checked before posting this, Waiting is definetely something I can do, just wanted to make sure I wasn't overlooking something small that could [Email]f@#$[/Email] everything up.. I guess if the BRF casing doesn't fruit by the time the poo one does, I can always try spawning it to poo, that would be alright, wouldn't it? Myc only quits flushing because of nute deficiancy correct?


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Re: Help! I'm panicking [Re: Kalix]
    #4304679 - 06/16/05 06:59 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I would agree on that casing that has had 3 flushes. I usually only get 2-3 flushes out of each casing before their spent. Plenty for me by the way.

I do think that more air exchange is needed though. 1-3 hours is a pretty big range. I usually have the best fruits when there is constant air exchange. Are you manually fanning?


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Re: Help! I'm panicking [Re: Wronguy]
    #4305008 - 06/16/05 08:38 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Yep.. It's manual, and my only excuse is I'm too lazy to hook up my cool-mist..


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Re: Help! I'm panicking [Re: Kalix]
    #4305656 - 06/16/05 11:07 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Sounds like you need the Double Tub tek. I'm about 50% done with the write-up and I hope to have it completed by Sunday evening.


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Re: Help! I'm panicking [Re: Wronguy]
    #4306801 - 06/17/05 08:25 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I won't deny, I'm eagerly awaiting it..


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Re: Help! I'm panicking [Re: Kalix]
    #4308260 - 06/17/05 06:40 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Damn! I'm on the 13th day after putting my poo casing in my fruiting chamber, and still no pins! I cased it @ 85 to 90% colonized, and today I freaked out, sterilized a fork, and scratched off the casing layer, underneath it was white as snow, and smelled just like mushrooms. So.. I replaced the casing layer, and put it back in there.. I dunno what the hell the problem is.. Has anyone ever had a poo casing take so long to fruit?


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Re: Help! I'm panicking [Re: Kalix]
    #4310553 - 06/18/05 12:24 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Kalix, calm down, dude. You are on your FOURTH FLUSH, man! At this point you are dealing with an old tray. Give it time. You know gramps doesn't move quite the speed of sonny. If he did, that'd be dangerous as he could break his old bones. Get it?


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Re: Help! I'm panicking [Re: Blue Helix]
    #4310621 - 06/18/05 12:52 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

This is the 1st flush for the poo casing.. I broke up the old BRF casing, and I'm spawning it to poo, it is back in the incubator.. This is a poo casing I spawned from a virgin BRF cake.. about 2 weeks ago it was fully colonized.


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Re: Help! I'm panicking [Re: Kalix]
    #4310635 - 06/18/05 01:02 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

i've noticed on 3rd and 4th.... (even 5th flushes) the stems are very weak, and sometime with the slightest bump of a greenhouse, or fruiting chamber... they'll just fall over. oops!.... better pick that little guy!  :sad:


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Re: Help! I'm panicking [Re: Kalix]
    #4310648 - 06/18/05 01:18 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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This is the 1st flush for the poo casing..



That I am spazzing out about, it hasn't fruited yet at all..


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Re: Help! I'm panicking [Re: Kalix]
    #4310741 - 06/18/05 02:05 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

dotn feel bad... my bulk tub wont even colonzie and now it has green moldiness on it... after a week of waiting too! now i have to start ALL over with 5 wbs quarts and spawn those to some h/poo and god damnit it will be another month before i have fruits again!


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Re: Help! I'm panicking [Re: lordoftheshroomz]
    #4310761 - 06/18/05 02:16 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Sounds like you decided against quitting.. :wink: :thumbup:


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Re: Help! I'm panicking [Re: Kalix]
    #4310764 - 06/18/05 02:17 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I'm going to buy some neophrene tubing, and I'm going to hook up my coolmist.. This is motivating me at least..


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Re: Help! I'm panicking [Re: Kalix]
    #4310770 - 06/18/05 02:19 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

lol i guess i did decide against quitting over all... lol but i did say that i wanted one last successful grow before i take a break so that is why i am starting over again


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Re: Help! I'm panicking [Re: lordoftheshroomz]
    #4310814 - 06/18/05 02:37 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Wow so no one noticed (or mentioned) that the poo casing is sitting in usually 70% humidity while trying to pin?....thats probably yourbiggest problem right there. Humidity should be 85-95+% while your waiting for pins to form. Mostly in the 90's too...maybe a little drop to 85ish a few days after its ready with some heavy fresh air exchange. And then your fresh air exchange is only 1-3 times a day. Sure that will work, but it sure isnt optimal. And working with that and 70% humidity most of the time, its not unusual to wait 2 weeks or more with not optimal conditions, and a strain that isnt particularly fast to pin.

Plus I just noticed this one:
"I cased it @ 85 to 90% colonized" that'll set you back some more. I mean, if you dont do things optimal, it'll work...nothing you didnt is going to kill it...but you cant freak out when the times arent optimal too...


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Re: Help! I'm panicking [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4311037 - 06/18/05 04:23 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: well spotted

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Re: Help! I'm panicking [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4311076 - 06/18/05 04:43 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

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Wow so no one noticed (or mentioned) that the poo casing is sitting in usually 70% humidity while trying to pin?....thats probably yourbiggest problem right there. Humidity should be 85-95+% while your waiting for pins to form. Mostly in the 90's too...maybe a little drop to 85ish a few days after its ready with some heavy fresh air exchange. And then your fresh air exchange is only 1-3 times a day. Sure that will work, but it sure isnt optimal. And working with that and 70% humidity most of the time, its not unusual to wait 2 weeks or more with not optimal conditions, and a strain that isnt particularly fast to pin.

Plus I just noticed this one:
"I cased it @ 85 to 90% colonized" that'll set you back some more. I mean, if you dont do things optimal, it'll work...nothing you didnt is going to kill it...but you cant freak out when the times arent optimal too...




Yesterday, I pumped my humidity up to 89%, and scratched the casing, today I got pins! So.. I'm done freaking out, thanks for the advice from everyone, also I realized what my problem was.. My incubator's temp had sunk down to 78, and my fruiting chamber is 74.. So incubation was happening very slowly, and there wasn't enough temp drop to trigger fruiting. My colonization has doubled now that I got incubator temps up to 84 degrees, and I'm sure pins will happen a lot more quickly!

Thanks again Shroom Gods!


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