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adding vegative oli to the horsepoo?
    #4302927 - 06/16/05 11:01 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I have heard of adding vegetable oil to compost, but can it be added to just horsepoo with good results? bigger yields i mean?


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Re: adding vegative oli to the horsepoo? [Re: fluks]
    #4303041 - 06/16/05 11:47 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

never heard of this, can you post a link to where you read this info?
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Re: adding vegative oli to the horsepoo? [Re: fluks]
    #4303056 - 06/16/05 11:55 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Sounds highly suspect


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Re: adding vegative oli to the horsepoo? [Re: Smallworlds]
    #4303059 - 06/16/05 11:56 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I doubt it very much. I have heard hemp seed is a poor substrate due to the high oil content


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Re: adding vegative oli to the horsepoo? [Re: Smallworlds]
    #4303060 - 06/16/05 11:56 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

You add a shot glass of vege oil when your soaking the horse poo to a nice sized batch of poo, like 20 pounds or so.


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Re: adding vegative oli to the horsepoo? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4303062 - 06/16/05 11:57 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

scat what is this supposed to do?
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Re: adding vegative oli to the horsepoo? [Re: backupwards]
    #4303068 - 06/16/05 12:00 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I read from one of Agar's posts that too much = :thumbdown:

Forget why to be honest :shrug:

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Re: adding vegative oli to the horsepoo? [Re: backupwards]
    #4303495 - 06/16/05 02:03 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

backupwards said:
never heard of this, can you post a link to where you read this info?
thanks
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Re: adding vegative oli to the horsepoo? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4303510 - 06/16/05 02:11 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

scatmanrav said:
You add a shot glass of vege oil when your soaking the horse poo to a nice sized batch of poo, like 20 pounds or so.



Do you personally add vege oil, or just know how it`s used? if so do you get more contams? do you get bigger yields than without?

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Anyone else using it? and how much?


Edited by fluks (06/16/05 02:13 PM)


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Re: adding vegative oli to the horsepoo? [Re: fluks]
    #4303692 - 06/16/05 03:01 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

>Do you personally add vege oil

I personally do, have added a shot to every batch I've done.

> if so do you get more contams?

I have yet to see a mold on horse poo...never had it happen. I have had half of two batches ferment...but that was due to other reasons (poor air exchange, and to hot and to wet)

>do you get bigger yields than without?

I never tried it without so I wouldnt know. If you dont use it, you can compare my yields to yours :smile:



>scat what is this supposed to do?

My best guess, is makes the poo kind of break up better and absorb moisture better. But I really dont know for sure.

So why do I do it? Cause agar told me to :shrug:

I checked my records....

Agar sez:
"Single shot glass (1 oz) of V/oil to a large poo pot. A little more or less doesnt hurt, so long as nothing feels oily. "


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Re: adding vegative oli to the horsepoo? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4304790 - 06/16/05 07:33 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

i sent agar a pm about this adding oil and this was his reply:

A VERY small amount of vegatable oil - thouroghly mixed into a high fiber bulk substrate creates Flocculation points, that create bridges for myc to cross over rapidly from one point to another point, helping the whole mass to colonize faster (sometimes 5 to 10% faster). It also adds premium nutriants that would not be there - otherwise.

Some bulk edible growers - add it to compost, just before spawning - for the same purpose.

Only add in small amounts, he said you can have too much.
scat>"Single shot glass (1 oz) of V/oil to a large poo pot. A little more or less doesnt hurt, so long as nothing feels oily. "

thanks agar.  :thumbup:
gotta give it a try.
peace


Edited by backupwards (06/16/05 07:59 PM)


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Re: adding vegative oli to the horsepoo? [Re: backupwards]
    #4305025 - 06/16/05 08:43 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Stamets says it's a common tek for bulk edible growers.. He lists a few kinds of oil you can 'supplement' the bulk spawn with..


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Re: adding vegative oli to the horsepoo? [Re: backupwards]
    #4305301 - 06/16/05 09:49 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

backupwards said:
i sent agar a pm about this adding oil and this was his reply:

A VERY small amount of vegatable oil - thouroghly mixed into a high fiber bulk substrate creates Flocculation points, that create bridges for myc to cross over rapidly from one point to another point, helping the whole mass to colonize faster (sometimes 5 to 10% faster). It also adds premium nutriants that would not be there - otherwise.

Some bulk edible growers - add it to compost, just before spawning - for the same purpose.

Only add in small amounts, he said you can have too much.
scat>"Single shot glass (1 oz) of V/oil to a large poo pot. A little more or less doesnt hurt, so long as nothing feels oily. "

thanks agar.  :thumbup:
gotta give it a try.
peace




Cool, thanks :smile:


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Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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