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OfflinebizzaroSquirrel
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What are these? ID please.
    #4302238 - 06/16/05 02:34 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Hi guys, was wondering if anyone could ID these mushrooms.  I have seen a lot of both of them in a pine forest near my place.  I'm pretty sure they arent active but I'm curious anyway.

Mushroom #1.
I thought the cap of this one looked like an active psylocybe, but then nothing else matches =(

a. Habitat: Australia, Victoria.  Floor of pine plantation.
b. Characteristics of the gills: White.  Either free or uncinate, im not too sure.
d. Characteristics of the stem: White.  Outer layer is sort of tough and stringy, and the inner part is translucent and squishy, but fibrous.  70 to 80mm by 5-15mm, the stem becomes wider at the base.
e. Characteristics of the cap: Orange/brown color.  moist but not sticky (hygrophanous?). Young cap hemispheric, 10- 20 mm diameter, old cap convex to flat and 45 - 55mm diameter.
f. Spore print color: Pretty much white, but if you look closely there is a pink tinge to it.
g. Color that the mushroom bruises: none

Caps.


Gills.


Close up of gills.


What would you call this?  Free?



Mushroom #2.

a. Habitat:  As above
b. Characteristics of the gills:  Slightly off white.  Decurrent.
d. Characteristics of the stem:  Fibrous, white.  30mm by 10mm diameter.
e. Characteristics of the cap:  Light orange/brown.  Broadly umbonate (?).  Hygrophanous, moist.  45 - 60mm diameter.  Seems to have a colored ring around edge of cap.
f. Spore print color:  White.
g. Color that the mushroom bruises: None

Cap shot.


Gills. 


It looks so cool.


Is that a colored ring? or am i seeing things?


Decurrent.




I thought i might as well know what the common mushrooms around here are called.  And while i'm still trying to figure out how to ID them myself i'll just hassle you guys  :tongue2:

Any help appreciated
Peace,
squirrel


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Re: What are these? ID please. [Re: bizzaroSquirrel]
    #4302312 - 06/16/05 02:59 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Excellent pics and descriptions. Unfortunately I don't know where the hell I put my books.

I can tell you that none of them are active =\


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Re: What are these? ID please. [Re: bizzaroSquirrel]
    #4302425 - 06/16/05 03:32 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

The first ones look like Collybias to me. The slightly pinkish spore print color would place them into the genus Rhodocollybia. The large size suggests they are close to Rhodocollybia butyracea. Does the cap surface have a slightly slick feel to it if rubbed?

The second ones suggest Lactarius to me. If you break the stem, is it fibrous or does it break like chalk? Try cutting across the gills with a knife and see if it seems to bleed a fluid.

Happy mushrooming!


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Re: What are these? ID please. [Re: ToxicMan]
    #4302578 - 06/16/05 05:15 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Well you better go find them Gumby, or else ill kill that little green walrus of yours. Oh i couldnt do that, look at him... dancing away... he's so happy...

anyway

Toxicman, I had originally written down that mushroom 1 had a slightly slimy, but not sticky cap, so i guess that could be called slick?
For mushroom 2, what do you mean break like chalk? Like a clean break? I tried snapping it but it left a jagged break (there was still plenty of moisture in the stem), i would call it fibrous.
The gills did not bleed after 5 minutes, however, I'll go find another one tomorrow to check with a fresh mushroom, these caps havepretty much dried out =/

Thanks for the info, ill have a check in the mushrooms demystified book on those species you gave me.

cheers
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Re: What are these? ID please. [Re: bizzaroSquirrel]
    #4303836 - 06/16/05 03:40 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

The break won't be even, but it should lack any stringy bits. Also, if you throw them against a tree or rock they explode into fragments.

The bleeding of latex will typically only occur with fresh specimens, and even then often it won't happen in a dry area.

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