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Offlineststephen65
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dehydrateing mushrooms
    #4297746 - 06/15/05 02:41 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

was wandering if i can use my food dehydrater to dry my shrooms and if so at what temp


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Re: dehydrateing mushrooms [Re: ststephen65]
    #4297807 - 06/15/05 02:54 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Yes.

95 and below and best.

The less heat the better..

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Re: dehydrateing mushrooms [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #4298556 - 06/15/05 11:28 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

split the bigger stems open when dehydrating, then when they become leathery move em to a desiccant chamber to dry completely.


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Re: dehydrateing mushrooms [Re: yousuck]
    #4298570 - 06/15/05 11:32 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Or just leave them on the dehydrator until dry.


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Re: dehydrateing mushrooms [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4299078 - 06/15/05 01:29 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

that would expose them to unneccesary prolonged heat and oxidation. ive left them in a dehydrator for 12 hours, then for another 12 and noted little difference in dryness. for some reason a dehyrator has trouble sucking the remaining moisture out of the inside of the mushroom.

this seems to be a problem with stems at least, since caps dry rather quickly in a dehydrator.


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Re: dehydrateing mushrooms [Re: ststephen65]
    #4299111 - 06/15/05 01:37 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

The heat from a dehydrator will not affect the shrooms potency, so crank it up. Unless your dehydrator is running at over 400 degrees.
Split the stems and give it 24 hrs. They will be cracker dry by then.

Enjoy


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Re: dehydrateing mushrooms [Re: Shdwstr]
    #4299286 - 06/15/05 02:23 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Shdwstr said:
The heat from a dehydrator will not affect the shrooms potency, so crank it up. Unless your dehydrator is running at over 400 degrees.
Split the stems and give it 24 hrs. They will be cracker dry by then.

Enjoy




400 degrees eh? lol


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Re: dehydrateing mushrooms [Re: yousuck]
    #4299315 - 06/15/05 02:29 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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yousuck said:
Quote:

Shdwstr said:
The heat from a dehydrator will not affect the shrooms potency, so crank it up. Unless your dehydrator is running at over 400 degrees.
Split the stems and give it 24 hrs. They will be cracker dry by then.

Enjoy



so someone could use the "fruit/vegetable" setting(130 degrees) and not lose potency?


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Re: dehydrateing mushrooms [Re: Pink_buffalo2000]
    #4299348 - 06/15/05 02:42 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Sure can...
I always cook my pizza at 350 -375, and I like all the toppings. Pepperoni, Bacon, Green Peppers... Mushrooms, and my pizza has never been anything but Tasty!
Nothing like a good Pizza Party  :laugh:

Enjoy


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Re: dehydrateing mushrooms [Re: Shdwstr]
    #4299452 - 06/15/05 03:01 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

i call shenanagins!

heat destroys psilo, how do i know this? i dont. i know oxidation by mositure does, but thats besides the point.

you would have to load shrooms at least .5" thick on your pizza in order to get any effects. the mere amount of food matter would dillute even the most potent shrooms.

you canadians always do things backwards.

anyways, does anyone have a link to some factual evidence that heat destroys psilo? theres a whole lotta talk and no walkin the cakeka walk.


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Re: dehydrateing mushrooms [Re: yousuck]
    #4299801 - 06/15/05 04:17 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

yousuck, must you always be rude like that? I consistently see rude posts by you. I even gave you a 1 rating once because you were so rude to someone, and so you rated me a 1 for nothing.

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Re: dehydrateing mushrooms [Re: yousuck]
    #4299938 - 06/15/05 05:02 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

yousuck said:
heat destroys psilo, how do i know this? i dont. i know oxidation by mositure does,...





Yousuck... you can believe me or don't, I don't really care :smile:
I will tell you one thing, in the 30 some odd years of experimenting and studying, I've learned a few things.
I didn't post an exact temp, because I don't remember, I do know it was over 400, and published in a scientific journal.
I'm not going to waste my time proving my statements to you. But... your more than welcome to research this out for yourself and prove me wrong... with scientific data.

Have a Nice Day  :cool:


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Re: dehydrateing mushrooms [Re: yousuck]
    #4300182 - 06/15/05 06:01 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

yousuck said:
i call shenanagins!

heat destroys psilo, how do i know this? i dont. i know oxidation by mositure does, but thats besides the point.

you would have to load shrooms at least .5" thick on your pizza in order to get any effects. the mere amount of food matter would dillute even the most potent shrooms.

you canadians always do things backwards.

anyways, does anyone have a link to some factual evidence that heat destroys psilo? theres a whole lotta talk and no walkin the cakeka walk.




Your the one doing the talking, so why dont you do the walking and back it up with some links to factual evidence. Because, your pretty full of shit.


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Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: dehydrateing mushrooms [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4300329 - 06/15/05 06:27 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

LOL.....to the original question.....set your dehyd at 95 until they are dry and/or use desiccant. I use both..I use the dehyd to get most of the water out, and then use desiccant in just the right ratio. 4 or 5 hours in the dehyd, and 24 hours in the desiccant container works great for me.


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Re: dehydrateing mushrooms [Re: oysterguy63]
    #4300368 - 06/15/05 06:35 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

i use a dehydrator set at 95 and i cut the shrooms in pieces and they are usally dry in 14 to 16 hours and that is cracker dry i grow them on poo and never see a degrade in potency they are always good!!!!!!!


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Re: dehydrateing mushrooms [Re: sludge]
    #4302289 - 06/16/05 02:51 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

cool, thanks to the people who answered me,sounds like the 95 degrees plus dessecant way has been well tested.


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Re: dehydrateing mushrooms [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #4302293 - 06/16/05 02:53 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

120 is fine, I've done it at 140 and not lost any 'potency'. The destruction of the psilocybin/psilocin molecule wouldn't occur at a temperature less than that of boiling water, so you should be way cool at 95 degrees.


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Re: dehydrateing mushrooms [Re: Shdwstr]
    #4302373 - 06/16/05 03:17 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Shdwstr said:
Quote:

yousuck said:
heat destroys psilo, how do i know this? i dont. i know oxidation by mositure does,...





Yousuck... you can believe me or don't, I don't really care :smile:
I will tell you one thing, in the 30 some odd years of experimenting and studying, I've learned a few things.
I didn't post an exact temp, because I don't remember, I do know it was over 400, and published in a scientific journal.
I'm not going to waste my time proving my statements to you. But... your more than welcome to research this out for yourself and prove me wrong... with scientific data.

Have a Nice Day  :cool:




:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

QUESTION: how well would one of those great, discontinued Mr.Coffee dehydrators work? I'm not sure what temp it uses, but it feels pretty warm.


Edited by myndreach (06/16/05 03:24 AM)


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Re: dehydrateing mushrooms [Re: SoopaX]
    #4302407 - 06/16/05 03:27 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

SoopaX said:
The destruction of the psilocybin/psilocin molecule wouldn't occur at a temperature less than that of boiling water, so you should be way cool at 95 degrees.


that's a good point, if you can trip balls off of tea that was made from boiling mushrooms in water, then a food dehydrator couldnt hurt the potency. :thumbup:


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Re: dehydrateing mushrooms [Re: Pink_buffalo2000]
    #4302576 - 06/16/05 05:13 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I just throw them in the American Harvester SnackMaster @ 95F & forget about them - for a couple days, then vacuum seal them in an autoclave bag, then toss them in the freezer. That makes them good for about a decade +/- a year or 2. But, usualy, they get passed out at the following year, at burning man & everyone tells me they are mind benders (in a good way).


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