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vampirism
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I deserve it!
#4288586 - 06/12/05 07:59 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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I've noticed that it's not quite greed that makes people fucked up, it's the idea that they deserve something.
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Icelander
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Re: I deserve it! [Re: vampirism]
#4288593 - 06/12/05 08:01 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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We deserve everything that is the lot of being human.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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vampirism
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Re: I deserve it! [Re: Icelander]
#4288597 - 06/12/05 08:02 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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what?
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Icelander
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Re: I deserve it! [Re: vampirism]
#4288607 - 06/12/05 08:04 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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We deserve everything we get in life. Other wise why would we get it? Good, bad, ugly, beatiful, and on and on.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: I deserve it! [Re: vampirism]
#4288613 - 06/12/05 08:05 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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Indeed, people will matyr themselves without a backwards glance if they believe it'll help relieve the sins of humanity.
This was the problem with Jesus and others.
-------------------- So long as you are praised think only that you are not yet on your own path but on that of another.
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Icelander
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Re: I deserve it! [Re: Ravus]
#4288639 - 06/12/05 08:09 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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If he existed.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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OldWoodSpecter
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Re: I deserve it! [Re: vampirism]
#4288651 - 06/12/05 08:10 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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I often can't believe how tied people are to this concept of deserving. It's silly. Who is to say who deserves what? We just take what we need, and not take what we don't need, that's all that there is to it.
I'm okay with the use of the word deserve in context of expressing affection, or afirmation and saying: you deserve this, you have worked hard. But that is just a personal expression of feelings and thoughts, and it is not something objective, I has absolutley no real meaning
-------------------- I descend upon your earth from the skies I command your very souls you unbelievers Bring before me what is mine
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BlueCoyote
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Heh, yea, take what you need Need for what ? I need just a littlebit to fly to Jupiter. So, all what I need, I also deserve ? If my needs get bigger and bigger, does my greed not get bigger and bigger ? Is there a 'natural' need for that what we deserve ? How is it classified ? Don't I need to be healthy ? Is there an unnatural greed for health ? Physical and psychical health ? Health equal wealth ?
As ever...borders are fluent. [Just a roundabout ]
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uriahchase
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when you dont get what you deserve..maybe you should be happy! when you get what you dont deserve..maybe you should be happy!
get it?
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uriahchase
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all the shit you got away with in life...all the ass whippings you never got.
you pay for by working hard and doing good, but not getting that extra "something" you deserve for all your work..????
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redgreenvines
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I'll have to ask my inner jury if my convictions will be upheld.
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OldWoodSpecter
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Why would you not deserve to go to jupiter? Who is to say you don't deserve, aliens?
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BlueCoyote
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Hmm, my financial sponsors don't see, I would deserve that And my lifetime is to short to build this spacecraft without money or alone If I think, I deserve this flight, I had to 'take' much time and money from others, to get it ready, and cover my egoistic intentions by some altruistic lie What if everyone deserves 10 billion dollars ?
You are right: who says what who deserves ? But not everyone can deserve everything.
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OldWoodSpecter
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Not being able to have has nothing to do with not deserving to have.
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vampirism
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that was my point. No one "deserves" ANYTHING. What you take and make is yours, but you didn't deserve it.
"You deserve what you need!" no you dont.
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OldWoodSpecter
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Re: I deserve it! [Re: vampirism]
#4291644 - 06/13/05 02:39 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
Morrowind said: No one "deserves" ANYTHING. "You deserve what you need!" no you dont.
those two things are the same. Nobody deserves anything, so everyone deserves everything that they claim to deserve.
-------------------- I descend upon your earth from the skies I command your very souls you unbelievers Bring before me what is mine
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vampirism
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huh.
no I was refuting the "You deserve what you need" statement
meaning they don't deserve what they claim to either
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CeeThruMeer
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Quote:
OldWoodSpecter said:
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Morrowind said: No one "deserves" ANYTHING. "You deserve what you need!" no you dont.
those two things are the same. Nobody deserves anything, so everyone deserves everything that they claim to deserve.
Me, my best friend, and my girlfriend invented a word for the concept of everything and nothing meaning the same thing in certain contexts... the word is... Spirohter (spy-roe-ter)
-------------------- "my old friend told me to do well always set your sails, open ride your waves, flowing just relax, sober leave you past, it's over bind two hands, stronger my soul waits, forward" - Arjun and Guardians
Edited by CeeThruMeer (06/13/05 02:50 PM)
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OldWoodSpecter
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Re: I deserve it! [Re: vampirism]
#4291772 - 06/13/05 03:05 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
Morrowind said: huh.
no I was refuting the "You deserve what you need" statement
meaning they don't deserve what they claim to either
But since people invented the word deserve, they can use it any way the want.
For example, I can invent the word "frldrling", so I frldrl you If I say I frldrl you because I invented the word. Or mabye If I invent a word parpir, you are a parpir if I say you are
same way I deserve everything or nothing, depending on how I say, because the word is hollow and can be used any way.
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uriahchase
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i think if you reserve it, then you deserve it!?
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