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Offlinecheezy_terror
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BIG YELLOW RED
    #4286510 - 06/12/05 01:37 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

mushrooms growing amongst all the others, these turn instantly blue when i scrape the spongy gills with a knife....heres a pic



a. Habitat it was growing out of the wilderness floor in augusta, GA, which is covered in twigs, leaves and rotting particles...
b. Characteristics of the gills yellow, pourous
c. Measurements of cap and stem. 1 inch cap, 1.2 in stem
d. Characteristics of the stem solid, strong, yellow, bruising blue
e. Characteristics of the cap slightly spherical, like a hamburger bun...smooth red cap
f. Spore print color (very important!) i dont know how to print these kinda mushrooms, although ill try my old method...
g. Color that the mushroom bruises: blue
h. Scent of mushroom: very light mushroom scent


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Re: BIG YELLOW RED [Re: cheezy_terror]
    #4286522 - 06/12/05 01:40 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I'm no good at identifying boletes, but typically you can count on blue-staining ones to be inedible. Very good description though. Cudos.


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Re: BIG YELLOW RED [Re: superblingtheory]
    #4286744 - 06/12/05 02:28 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

um, i thought blue bruising is good? i dont know if by boletes you are talking about a weird species of mushroom, but blue bruising is good on alot of mushrooms.


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Re: BIG YELLOW RED [Re: UlisSausage7]
    #4286978 - 06/12/05 03:40 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

thats not a mushroom, its a bolette.
its funny how people can know the 'bluing" idea, but not have a basic understanding of muhrooms and expect to find anything.
you can't just know one little thing. it will get you dead.


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Re: BIG YELLOW RED [Re: Mitchnast]
    #4287022 - 06/12/05 03:52 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

A mushroom with spongey pores instead of gills is generally considered a bolet, none of whice have been known to be psychoactive. Bolets that stain blue do so from a poisonous chemical reaction that is NOT related to psilocin. There are a select few that are edible (and even choice gourmet) that stain blue, but yours is not one of them.


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Re: BIG YELLOW RED [Re: cheezy_terror]
    #4287032 - 06/12/05 03:58 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Bolete is a classification of fungi which have spongy pores under the cap. There are several genre and innumerable species of Boletes. Many are good edibles but none are known to be active. Many of the yellow and red boletes are poisonous, especially the ones which bruise blue.


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Re: BIG YELLOW RED [Re: shroomydan]
    #4288082 - 06/12/05 07:45 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

welcome home, shroomydan  :smile:

:hug:


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Re: BIG YELLOW RED [Re: Mitchnast]
    #4288133 - 06/12/05 07:56 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Mitchnast said:
thats not a mushroom, its a bolette.




Aren't boletes mushrooms? :smirk:


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Re: BIG YELLOW RED [Re: ivi]
    #4288297 - 06/12/05 08:40 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

not for our purposes. not anymore than a puffball, truffle, morel, or reishii.
they are fruiting bodies of fungi. set apart from evrything above mentioned however, the word 'mushroom' would represent gilled, capped, stemmed, fruiting bodies of fungi


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Re: BIG YELLOW RED [Re: Mitchnast]
    #4288418 - 06/12/05 09:10 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

You have a very narrow perception of what a mushroom is. By definition "mushrooms" are fleshy spore-bearing structures of certain fungi, typically of the class Basidiomycetes. This includes various agarics, boletes, polypores, puffballs, jelly fungi etc. They're all "mushrooms".


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Re: BIG YELLOW RED [Re: shirley knott]
    #4288443 - 06/12/05 09:21 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

shirley knott said:
welcome home, shroomydan  :smile:

:hug:




:smile::heart::mushroom2:


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Re: BIG YELLOW RED [Re: ivi]
    #4288499 - 06/12/05 09:37 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

thats nice
im entitled to my interpretation and feel justified in spite of presented understandings to the contrary


Edited by Mitchnast (06/12/05 09:46 PM)


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Re: BIG YELLOW RED [Re: Mitchnast]
    #4290224 - 06/13/05 07:10 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

And so you should be.
The term 'mushroom' is hardly one delineated by strict scientific consensus, and according to its precise context can encompass a number of more specific or more general groupings. These groupings are based on traits related to (a) edibility - in contrast to 'toadstool' - (b) taxonomic or phylogenetic placement, and (c) various morphological criteria. CABI's standard mycological dictionary gives several informal and flexible definitions.
So it seems, Ivi, that perhaps you are the one with a too narrow perception of the definition of 'mushroom', which I trust will remain a wonderfully adaptive and context-dependent word.


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Re: BIG YELLOW RED [Re: pluteus]
    #4290281 - 06/13/05 08:21 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

oh marry me you sweet thing :smile:


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Re: BIG YELLOW RED [Re: pluteus]
    #4290423 - 06/13/05 10:54 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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pluteus said:
The term 'mushroom' is hardly one delineated by strict scientific consensus, and according to its precise context can encompass a number of more specific or more general groupings. These groupings are based on traits related to (a) edibility - in contrast to 'toadstool' - (b) taxonomic or phylogenetic placement, and (c) various morphological criteria.




Yes I am aware of that, but according to any of these groupings Mitchnast's perception of "mushrooms" as "gilled, capped, and stemmed fruiting bodies of fungi" is narrow at it's best.

Call me crazy but I find Mitchnast's claim that boletes are not mushrooms absurd.

But something tells me you'd defend Mitchnast even if he declared that boletes are elephants.


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Re: BIG YELLOW RED [Re: ivi]
    #4290489 - 06/13/05 11:24 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I think mushroom defines a gill producing basidiomycete. You would use this in a similar manner as bolete, or chanterelle. Basidiomycetes encompass mushrooms, chanterelles, boletes, earthstars, puffballs, tooth fungi, birds nest fungi and polypores. Most of the big fungus we hunt for are therefore basidiomycetes. However, there are plenty of ascomycetes like morel, and some genera of wood ears that are tasty. I suggest that you never again equate bruising blue with edibility, that's good way to poison yourself. Also, the contrasting yellow stem and red cap scream - "don't eat me or I'll put you in a world of pain."


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Re: BIG YELLOW RED [Re: Lysergic_Milkman]
    #4290536 - 06/13/05 11:41 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

There was an article posted here a while ago regarding a psychoactive species of bolete in New Guinea (I think). From what I remember it didn't have the regular psilocybin/psilocin but something else, and the manicy trip lasted over 24 hours. I just googled it and couldn't find anything though.


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Re: BIG YELLOW RED [Re: nycomyco]
    #4290565 - 06/13/05 11:49 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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