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InvisibleArp
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Singualistic and dualistic creations
    #4284468 - 06/11/05 09:05 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I've just had a long discussion with a friend over the phone
were we debated wheter or not you can create an impression of
an expression without the opposit end. I claimed that you can,
for instance create an impression of positive, without getting
the whole package with its opposite as negative.
We probably spent well over an hour trying to convince eachother
who was right about this. :grin:

I told him that his viewpoint was dualistic by creating a package of
expressions, meanwhile my version more singualistic, I only created
one shape of the expression without the other.

He said that you must be able to compare the two states if you are
going to create it. I claimed that you don't have to do that, the
other state is just an creation of the thought of analysing your
first, lets say positive. Therefor you make several creations
instead of just one which he didnt think was possible.

My sense of it all, being that the less information your "creation"
contains the more precise you can make them. If you get all the
other information with it, then that'll mean your in this game of
illusions as it brings this additional detail.

This probably is silly, but would be nice with other input on the subject :crazy:


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Re: Singualistic and dualistic creations [Re: Arp]
    #4284490 - 06/11/05 09:12 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

damn, I've been wondering what's the oposite of dualistic...
anti-dualistic, adualistic, monolistic...


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Re: Singualistic and dualistic creations [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #4284508 - 06/11/05 09:25 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I like what you say. I am well versed in information overload and multiplicity illusions.
I am approaching singularity by trying to be nicer to my twin babies. Their nicknames are Luke and Leya.
Isolation of some from the whole breeds abstraction, delusions, and lies. There is more but it is fleeting and difficult to capture.... maybe it is best to let go.....


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Re: Singualistic and dualistic creations [Re: Arp]
    #4284532 - 06/11/05 09:42 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Arp said:
the
other state is just an creation of the thought of analysing your
first




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Re: Singualistic and dualistic creations [Re: SantaServant]
    #4284549 - 06/11/05 09:49 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

arp i think you are right
a thing is a thing
it's opposite is dependant on the perspective you look at it from
fdr is opposite eleanor (husband vs wife)
fdr is opposite hitler (WWII)
fdr is opposite stalin (america vs. soviets)
fdr is opposite a beggar (successful vs unsuccessful)
fdr is opposite reagan (democrat favorite vs republican favorite)
"opposite" tell you about the perspective not the object in question i think

i wonder if 'more or less information' is dependant on perspective too


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Re: Singualistic and dualistic creations [Re: crunchytoast]
    #4284672 - 06/11/05 10:47 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

crunchytoast said:
i wonder if 'more or less information' is dependant on perspective too




Good point *thinks*


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Re: Singualistic and dualistic creations [Re: Arp]
    #4285704 - 06/12/05 05:55 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

you create the expression (singularity)

the impression(s) of the expression is dependent upon reception(s)

you use your own receptivity to evaluate the expression and to mould others. your receptivity (and impressions) govern the quality of expression


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