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myndreach
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Psilocybin at its highest just as veil breaks...here's the source of rumour (psylocybe fanaticus!!!)
#4284108 - 06/11/05 05:24 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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****EDIT**** see my post below ************
This book
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/det...nce&s=books
I was flipping through this in the book store and it says, under the harvesting section...
"Psilocybin levels are at their highest in these coprophores just before the veil membrane breaks"
I'm quoting that from memory, so it may not be exactly right, but that's basically what it said.
Edited by myndreach (06/14/05 11:08 PM)
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Anno
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Re: Psilocybin at its highest just as veil breaks...here's the source of the rumour [Re: myndreach]
#4284124 - 06/11/05 05:27 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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It says:
The mushrooms are harvested just after the partial veil ruptures. The psilocybin content of the mushrooms is highest at this stage in the carpophore's growth.
I have yet to see any definitive scientific study that confirms this.
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Re: Psilocybin at its highest just as veil breaks...here's the source of the rumour [Re: Anno]
#4284133 - 06/11/05 05:30 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
Anno said: I have yet to see any definitive scientific study that confirms this.
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Roadkill
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Re: Psilocybin at its highest just as veil breaks...here's the source of the rumour [Re: Anno]
#4284147 - 06/11/05 05:37 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
Anno said:
I have yet to see any definitive scientific study that confirms this.
me either.
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Re: Psilocybin at its highest just as veil breaks...here's the source of the rumour [Re: Anno]
#4284199 - 06/11/05 05:55 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
Anno said: It says:
The mushrooms are harvested just after the partial veil ruptures. The psilocybin content of the mushrooms is highest at this stage in the carpophore's growth.
I have yet to see any definitive scientific study that confirms this.
do you disbelieve the hypothesis?
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Anno
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Re: Psilocybin at its highest just as veil breaks...here's the source of the rumour [Re: Smallworlds]
#4284246 - 06/11/05 06:06 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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I prefer to believe scientific data over hearsay.
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Re: Psilocybin at its highest just as veil breaks...here's the source of the rumour [Re: Anno]
#4284267 - 06/11/05 06:12 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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I just think it varies like hell and scientifically tracking it would look like a volatile seismograph reading. I prefer to follow the paths of Anno and RK...as well as my OWN experiences.
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Re: Psilocybin at its highest just as veil breaks...here's the source of the rumour [Re: Anno]
#4284276 - 06/11/05 06:15 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
Anno said:
I prefer to believe scientific data over hearsay.
me too!~
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myndreach
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Re: Psilocybin at its highest just as veil breaks...here's the source of the rumour [Re: Anno]
#4284283 - 06/11/05 06:17 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
Anno said: It says:
The mushrooms are harvested just after the partial veil ruptures. The psilocybin content of the mushrooms is highest at this stage in the carpophore's growth.
I have yet to see any definitive scientific study that confirms this.
Exactly.
I wasn't saying it was true. I was saying this is where that rumour probably came from, as people have often said, "That isn't proven, I don't know where the hell people get that from."
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myndreach
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Re: Psilocybin at its highest just as veil breaks...here's the source of the rumour [Re: Smallworlds]
#4284291 - 06/11/05 06:19 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
Smallworlds said:
Quote:
Anno said: It says:
The mushrooms are harvested just after the partial veil ruptures. The psilocybin content of the mushrooms is highest at this stage in the carpophore's growth.
I have yet to see any definitive scientific study that confirms this.
do you disbelieve the hypothesis?
What hypothesis? There is no hypothesis there. Remember a hypothesis is always stated as a question. That quote from the book is stated as proven fact, with no support or sources.
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Anno
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Re: Psilocybin at its highest just as veil breaks...here's the source of the rumour [Re: myndreach]
#4284293 - 06/11/05 06:19 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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> I was saying this is where that rumour probably came from
The rumor is, as you said, that the levels are highest just BEFORE the veil ruptures.
This book though claims that this is the case "just after the partial veil ruptures".
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GNIOM1498
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Re: Psilocybin at its highest just as veil breaks...here's the source of the rumour [Re: myndreach]
#4284304 - 06/11/05 06:21 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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I have that book lol i remember reading it and thinking this guy never did his homework and he has some crappy ideas for a room for full time production do not buy this book its about 80 pages of crap.
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Re: Psilocybin at its highest just as veil breaks...here's the source of the rumour [Re: Smallworlds]
#4284363 - 06/11/05 06:35 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
Smallworlds said:
Quote:
Anno said: It says:
The mushrooms are harvested just after the partial veil ruptures. The psilocybin content of the mushrooms is highest at this stage in the carpophore's growth.
I have yet to see any definitive scientific study that confirms this.
do you disbelieve the hypothesis?
Hasn't been proven. Period.
I for one, Don't.
-Gnostic
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myndreach
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Re: Psilocybin at its highest just as veil breaks...here's the source of the rumour [Re: Anno]
#4284383 - 06/11/05 06:39 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
Anno said: > I was saying this is where that rumour probably came from
The rumor is, as you said, that the levels are highest just BEFORE the veil ruptures.
This book though claims that this is the case "just after the partial veil ruptures".
I've actually heard both in my days here.
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scatmanrav
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Re: Psilocybin at its highest just as veil breaks...here's the source of the rumour [Re: myndreach]
#4286196 - 06/12/05 10:05 AM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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Since the copyright date of the book is 1997, I dont believe thats where the rumor started..
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lepiota
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Re: Psilocybin at its highest just as veil breaks...here's the source of the rumour [Re: scatmanrav]
#4286329 - 06/12/05 10:45 AM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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actually it was written in 1976, and the full text of that book is also available in our FAQ section here at shroomery: http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/7997
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RobMarley420
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Re: Psilocybin at its highest just as veil breaks...here's the source of the rumour [Re: lepiota]
#4286465 - 06/12/05 11:26 AM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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so when do you guys harvest your mushrooms? Do you let them grow all the way out or right arter the veil breaks?
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agar
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Re: Psilocybin at its highest just as veil breaks...here's the source of the rumour [Re: Anno]
#4286583 - 06/12/05 11:54 AM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
Anno said: It says:
The mushrooms are harvested just after the partial veil ruptures. The psilocybin content of the mushrooms is highest at this stage in the carpophore's growth.
I have yet to see any definitive scientific study that confirms this.
My opinion of what is at its highest stage, when mushrooms are harvested at the veil rupture stage & dried, is the quality appearance. Which, (to me) demonstrates the color, size, length & weight of each painting.
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lepiota
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Re: Psilocybin at its highest just as veil breaks...here's the source of the rumour [Re: agar]
#4286624 - 06/12/05 12:04 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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i harvest when the cap is open, so i can also take prints. then dry and pulverize everything. appearance is not that important once you put it in a blender!
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Re: Psilocybin at its highest just as veil breaks...here's the source of the rumour [Re: RobMarley420]
#4286631 - 06/12/05 12:06 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
dingleberrysalad said:
so when do you guys harvest your mushrooms? Do you let them grow all the way out or right arter the veil breaks?
depends on...
if I'm taking spore prints or if I'm just harvesting fruits.
if I'm taking spore prints...I wait til the cap flattens out.
if I'm just after fruits...I harvest them before the veil breaks. because they look nicer dried out!~
tc
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