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scatmanrav
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Turning a closet, into a fruiting chamber (stealth)

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#4024838 - 04/07/05 02:32 AM (19 years, 13 days ago)

I?ve been asked this a number of times, so here?s what I?ve done. Work in progress..let me know if you see something odd or have any questions?

I have 3 closets in my apartment and everything is kept stealth (for visitors, not my room mate who lives here or parents or anything like that) First I?ll start with the incubation closet. I used to run two TIT?s.

My dehydrator was in there though and that got heat up by itself. So I threw it on a timer, and removed the TITs.

And the closet maintains a nice 80-86 degrees. No, there?s no potency loss drying this way IME. That?s another topic though..

Now to the fruiting chamber closets?the old closets were rolls of plastic sheeting (Walmart or Ace Hardware ect) tacked up and duct taped with clear duct tape over EVERY tack and EVERY seam. Every seam overlapped a good amount too:

And you can see the plastic shelving (varied to fit perfectly) and clip on lights..with compact flouro (15 watters) bulbs in them. There?s also a strip flouro above the door.

I recently made a change to bulk though instead of straight cased grains (mostly rye, and that?s most of what people have seen from me in the past) which required a whole closet redesign. This time, instead of multiple pieces of plastic sheeting, I went with a single, solid blue tarp. Tarps are colored by thickness, I went with blue which is 2 mil..the thinnest..you could get thicker if you feel the urge but I think the blue is fine.

First you want to set up shelves such as this white one, that fit perfectly in your closet:

You set them up, on the floor so that the whole closet will be elevated. This will allow you to put the humidifier underneath to pull in fresh air. You want to cut the shelve heights to about 12 inches high (or whatever works for your setup) and line them up along the bottom?it took 3 side by side to cover my closet:

Then you?ll need corner strapping. I?m not sure that its actually called strapping, but it looks like strapping made for corners..It?s very thin (so thin you?ll be afraid of accidentally bending it), from Home Depot?comes in 8 and 10 foot pieces. You can easily cut it with Tin Snips or any shears or anything to 2 footish pieces (or whatever to fit your closet). They don?t have to go along the entire wall?you only need smaller pieces then the length that you need to hold up the tarp?

It will be very difficult to maneuver this huge tarp within your closet, and get it straight?but there are lines and grids on it (and dark lines every so often) to help you line it up. Then once you get it up against the corner of the farthest top corner (from the door) and hold it up there, making sure it will cover the rest of the 5 walls (6 walls total, including the ceiling and floor as walls) You can easily put a 1 or 2 foot piece of corner strapping (were talking on 5 foot wide wall) right up in that corner and throw a screw in the middle hole. That will hold it up for you..throw in another 2 screws on each end (one in ceiling, one in back wall) and that will put the piece up nice and tight for you. I got no pictures of it before I taped over it, but you can see it taped over here and what I mean:

Then you can move to the opposite wall (right above the door) and do the same. This will be easier from here out, since its now held into place and wont move..as long as you lined it up right to start..you can stretch it tight to the ceiling and throw up some corner strapping above the door. Then stretch it tight to the ceiling to each side and put a piece of corner strapping in each side. That?s 4 pieces of corner strapping, 2-2 footers and 2-1 footers, and a tarp- about 20ft by 9ft. It was a bigger tarp, but I cut it down before getting into the closet based on my measurements (8 feet tall, 5 feet wide, almost 2 feet depth) if you take width, 5, plus both side walls, 2 each so total of 4, and you get 9 feet and then take length by adding the floor, 2 ft, the height, 8 feet, the ceiling, 2 feet, and back down again, 8 ft..total of 20 feet?pretty easy, and cuts back on excess tarp in the closet (BIG plus trying to deal with it.

From here..you can just use single screws VERY sparingly along the edge of the seems down both sides (overlap and fold it like a present) just to hold it in place. You don?t need to hold it to the wall with the screws, the 4 brackets will support the weight..you only put in screws at points that come unfolded when you don?t hold them and where they are needed..dont put more holes then needed though and your gonna end up taping all seams anyway.

Once its all secured, you can tape it up. Keep in mind this whole time you?ll need to create a door based on your closet. You?ll want to try and have flaps that overlap where it opens at the doors so that it seals mostly airtight. You?ll need to be creative with this project! Along the bottom seams and anywhere that needs strength, I used ?Strapping Tape? which is like impossible to tear, good for strengthening. Any seams, and any strapping tape and screws and corner brackets all get covered with duct tape well..

And now I?ll finish up in my 3rd closet (roommates, so I usually don?t picture much from here) since his is closer to finished then mine? the above is where mine stops..

The shelving as I said, allows a Vicks under it. This is the kind of cool mist you want, impeller (not wick, with a fan blowing over it):

Which is modified by inserting 2 ? inch tubing..one for filling (stuff with a towel other times) and one which goes into the closet:

You can probably also see a cord running in there?that?s an ultrasonic fogger (found at pet stores and ebay and other places online):

http://www.mainlandmart.com/foggers.html

Which can be put on a timer. I?m still playing with timing on this..and it needs bigger diameter tubes, and no tubing for the input. But I have no drill as of now to modify it better and this works. By all means, improve upon this yourself. The other tube?goes into a piece of PVC cut into 4-1 foot long pieces attached back together into one with the fittings pictured below. You could use straps to attach it to the wall, but I didn?t want to go back to home depot so I just duct taped the hell out of it (some strapping tape too).

Each of those outputs puts out a humid breeze on your cheek, and visible mist when the fogger is on. Hoses could be run off of these and into the shelves installed..which is these (doors removed):

And rope lights (go with white, the blue aren?t nearly as bright) attached?a 12 footer on the bottom one?a 6 footer on the top one:

No flash and dark?just light from the ropelight:

I guess that?s about it?throw the shelves in the closet:

And your good to go. You can fit as many or as few shelves as you can, however you can..in your own closet. You can use rope lights, clamp lights (compact flouros best), flouro lights, or any combo to cover light everywhere. You want less wattage, for less heat, so flouros work the best. Don?t worry so much about getting blue lighting (though a blue bulb doesn?t hurt), which light of any sort, especially flouros, contain plenty of blues. You may still need to mist, but you can just leave the closet door open and have the tarp be the door so the cool mist can pull air from out of the closet, in the bottom and blow it in the chamber. Then if someone comes over, you can close the door quickly and easily and your shrooms will have plenty of air exchange within them.

I?m still not done with these closets, I?ll be putting the fans back in (a fan in each, just circulating air, not an intake or exhaust) to remove co2 pockets and keep humidity even around the closet, and upgrading the tubing and the whole seal job. I?m going to need to play with timers for humidifiers too. Each setup is going to be different, so don?t ask how exactly to set yours up. It will depend on the size of the chamber, ambient humidity and exact brands of humidifiers used ect on how timers will need to be set up. This is just a basic guide to help you out so you can learn some things I learned from my first closets..

All pics that aren?t up now, will be up in 24 hours when I can upload more..

More stuff to come soon probably.

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Edited by scatmanrav (04/08/05 09:02 AM)

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