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 Arp
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 A year of freedome 
#4280915 - 06/10/05 05:28 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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In Denmark & Sweden there is a system where you can switch places with an unemplyed for a year.
You'll get about 70% of your regular pay. No demands whatsoever.
Is this being practised anywhere else?
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 Re: A year of freedome [Re: Arp]
#4281008 - 06/10/05 06:01 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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thats because denmark and sweden are shitty red countries
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wtf am I talking to. dudes with backward baseballcaps??? 
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Re: A year of freedome [Re: Arp]
#4281070 - 06/10/05 06:25 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: A year of freedome [Re: Arp]
#4281266 - 06/10/05 07:53 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
Arp said:
In Denmark & Sweden there is a system where you can switch places with an unemplyed for a year.
You'll get about 70% of your regular pay. No demands whatsoever.
Is this being practised anywhere else?
I've never heard of this, but I wouldn't doubt it. Those wacky Europeans....
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Re: A year of freedome [Re: Arp]
#4281331 - 06/10/05 08:09 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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why the hell should you get paid for not working?
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Re: A year of freedome [Re: DieCommie]
#4281347 - 06/10/05 08:12 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
DieCommie said:
why the hell should you get paid for not working?
Here's how it works it sounds like....they take money from people who actually work and then use this money to support these loafers.
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Re: A year of freedome [Re: DieCommie]
#4281377 - 06/10/05 08:20 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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Well, for me it sounds like the perfect way to be able to do some traveling without having a shitload of money.
Guess you guys dont actually work so you wouldnt know how fucking tedious it can be.
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Re: A year of freedome [Re: Arp]
#4281388 - 06/10/05 08:24 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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Guess you guys dont actually work so you wouldnt know how fucking tedious it can be.
Either that or they're of the opinion that humans need to work half their life away even after we've invented enough technology to take all the work off our hands 
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Once, men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free.
But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.
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Re: A year of freedome [Re: Arp]
#4281391 - 06/10/05 08:24 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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Arp said:Guess you guys dont actually work so you wouldnt know how fucking tedious it can be.
Thats an awsome leap of logic dude. 
Some people complain about socalist freeloaders who get money for bieng lazy, conclusion- these people must not work. 
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Re: A year of freedome [Re: DieCommie]
#4281393 - 06/10/05 08:25 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ever had a paid vacation?
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Re: A year of freedome [Re: trendal]
#4281396 - 06/10/05 08:26 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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No, you?
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Re: A year of freedome [Re: DieCommie]
#4281402 - 06/10/05 08:27 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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Shit man, where do you work? McDonalds?
Isn't it standard practice for companies to give at least a few days paid vacation each year?
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Re: A year of freedome [Re: Arp]
#4281407 - 06/10/05 08:29 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
Arp said:
Well, for me it sounds like the perfect way to be able to do some traveling without having a shitload of money.
Guess you guys dont actually work so you wouldnt know how fucking tedious it can be.
And it is ok to force people that are working in tedious jobs to give up some of their money to people who don't feel like working and supporting themselves? How is that fair?
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Re: A year of freedome [Re: trendal]
#4281410 - 06/10/05 08:29 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yes, but I dont get it.
I make more than I deserve, so I can save for my vacation.
Whats the difference of getting a paid vacation, or making a little more and paying for you own vacation?
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Re: A year of freedome [Re: RandalFlagg]
#4281417 - 06/10/05 08:32 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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RandalFlagg said:
And it is ok to force people that are working in tedious jobs to give up some of their money to people who don't feel like working and supporting themselves? How is that fair?
You have you have worked alteast 2 years. I think your missing the
point with the whole thing. It gets an unemplyed a chance to proove
what he is capable of whilst someone who is working some free time
to study, travel or whatever.
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Re: A year of freedome [Re: DieCommie]
#4281422 - 06/10/05 08:35 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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Whats the difference of getting a paid vacation, or making a little more and paying for you own vacation?
There isn't much of one.
So what's the difference in making more to pay for your own year-long vacation and making less then getting paid even less during your year-long vacation.
Or, perhaps, is it the length of the vacation that angers you?
What do you think about professors? They get to go on a sabbatical every few years, I think, and I'm quite sure they get paid for it.
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Once, men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free.
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Re: A year of freedome [Re: trendal]
#4281449 - 06/10/05 08:43 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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Im not angry.
The difference is if the person gets paid by a company per agreement of employment, or if the money is bieng taken by another worker by force. I doubt that the worker who takes off for a year, paid into the system enough to fund a whole year off.
If a worker takes a year off, at 70% pay after two years of work, then he must have paid 35% of his wage in taxes, above the taxes needed for roads, fire, and other services. If this is the case I wouldnt be against it (but it seems silly to pay taxes just to get the money back later). But I doubt this is the case, Im pretty sure this workers "vacation" for a year is subsidized by other workers. Somebody is gonna get screwed in the end.
As far as the professors go, they are (usually) state employed so there money does come from other workers. It dosent seem fair to me. But if they are skilled and needed then they can demand more for there services.
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Re: A year of freedome [Re: trendal]
#4281452 - 06/10/05 08:43 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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I think it can be hard for a Mcdonalds worker to save up enough
money to be able to take a year off. And I also think that they
deserve it the most. Standing there flippin greezy American junk
food with a forced grin on their face all day long.
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Re: A year of freedome [Re: DieCommie]
#4281521 - 06/10/05 08:57 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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DieCommie said:
Somebody is gonna get screwed in the end.
I think you overestimate the resources needed to fuel your day.
Everything is mass-produced and very cost-efficent these days.
Takes very little Energy to keep our daily lives going with the
basics like food, heat, water etc.
Try not to think in terms such as the marketprice. They are unrealistic.
Your hi-tech equipment is rubbish. I work for a company that deals
with such things and we throw away QUANTITIES daily!
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