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OfflineHedgeWych
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More spores doesn't mean faster growth... why?
    #4276991 - 06/09/05 07:33 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I don't quite understand something. A lot of people have said that more spores doesn't mean that your spawn will grow faster. Why?

If I plant a single plant seed, I'm only going to have so much plant material after a week (or three), but if I sprinkle a dozen seeds, I'll have far more plant material in the same amount of time.

It just seems that it would take less time for more spores to cover the same amount of growing medium.


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Re: More spores doesn't mean faster growth... why? [Re: HedgeWych]
    #4277031 - 06/09/05 07:40 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Actually I have read that colonization IS more likely to happen quicker with more coverage from multiple locations....I look forward to hearing from the experts on this one.


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Re: More spores doesn't mean faster growth... why? [Re: oysterguy63]
    #4277128 - 06/09/05 07:55 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah... you may be mistaken on that.


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Re: More spores doesn't mean faster growth... why? [Re: HedgeWych]
    #4277134 - 06/09/05 07:57 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

here is a good post on why...

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RogerRabbit said:

using too many spores is very counterproductive, not to mention wasteful. Too many substrains will germinate and they'll be competing for food, and against each other. Your harvest will be much less than your harvest would be if you used 1/4 of one print to inoculate all 12 jars. When it comes to spores, more is not better. I hope this helps.
RR




and I agree with him 100%


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Re: More spores doesn't mean faster growth... why? [Re: Roadkill]
    #4277268 - 06/09/05 08:25 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

interesting, very interesting


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Re: More spores doesn't mean faster growth... why? [Re: RobMarley420]
    #4277283 - 06/09/05 08:29 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I Agree, don't want them all fighting :wink:

More Mycelium is better, not spores.

I agree :thumbup:

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Re: More spores doesn't mean faster growth... why? [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #4277321 - 06/09/05 08:39 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Cool guys...thank you for that clarification.


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Re: More spores doesn't mean faster growth... why? [Re: Roadkill]
    #4277655 - 06/09/05 10:25 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Makes sence!

Thank you!  :smile:


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Re: More spores doesn't mean faster growth... why? [Re: HedgeWych]
    #4277668 - 06/09/05 10:30 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

No one needs a turf war    :cool:


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Re: More spores doesn't mean faster growth... why? [Re: HedgeWych]
    #4277676 - 06/09/05 10:32 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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HedgeWych said:
I don't quite understand something. A lot of people have said that more spores doesn't mean that your spawn will grow faster. Why?





They will grow faster, at least in AFOAF experience.

AFOAF's grow had some jars with 1cc, some with 2cc, and some with 3cc. The 3cc took about 8 days to colonize, the 2cc took about 10 and the 1cc took about 12.


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Re: More spores doesn't mean faster growth... why? [Re: myndreach]
    #4277698 - 06/09/05 10:41 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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They will grow faster, at least in AFOAF experience.

AFOAF's grow had some jars with 1cc, some with 2cc, and some with 3cc. The 3cc took about 8 days to colonize, the 2cc took about 10 and the 1cc took about 12.




I was talking about spore count...not amount of inoculant used.

and amount of inoculant used depends on how much substrate and what kind of substrate you are going to colonize.

:smile:


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Re: More spores doesn't mean faster growth... why? [Re: myndreach]
    #4279943 - 06/10/05 02:33 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

myndreach said:
Quote:

HedgeWych said:
I don't quite understand something. A lot of people have said that more spores doesn't mean that your spawn will grow faster. Why?





They will grow faster, at least in AFOAF experience.

AFOAF's grow had some jars with 1cc, some with 2cc, and some with 3cc. The 3cc took about 8 days to colonize, the 2cc took about 10 and the 1cc took about 12.




Thats not the amount of spores. Put 1 whole print into a syringe, then put 10 in a syringe, or 100 prints in a syringe. You think 100 prints in a syringe is going to be noticably faster then 6-7 days (which is how much time it takes me makeing about 5 syringes off a print)? Amount of spores per cc, can make a different between clear and purple...but at a point your just wasting spores..between purple and more purple..

Oh and the original analogy doesnt match because each plant is independant of eachother...plant 1 seed and in a few weeks the plant will be a certain size...plant 100 seeds and the size of each plant wont increase..you'll just have more plants. So would you plant 100 seeds in ONE hole (like one jar) or would you plant 1-3 in each spot, in many holes, over a larger surface area? You can squirt 1 cc into a jar, or 100 ccs into a jar...but just like 100 seeds in a single hole, it would hinder growth...so instead split it into 100 jars so you end up with more mushrooms..


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