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Spencyspence28
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God damnit.
#4275612 - 06/09/05 11:26 AM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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What the fuck is this president thinking.I liked him at first but now am scared of what could very easily happen.he is letting our borders go uncontroled easily letting in 800 000 people in a day and 30% arent mexican.The chinese government could easily get ahold of mexico and say hey lets make a deal and the chinese could put millions on the border and we couldnt do a thing about it .
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popnganja420
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I hate what Bush has done with Social Security and overtime pay in the US. My fiance lost all time and a half due to Bush because now employers have the option of paying regular time over 40 hours. And then on top of that Medicaid cuts are rediculous!!! I've lost chiropractor, psychologist, and now vision and dental is in jeopardy, and I pay fuckin $400 a month just to get medical insurance through Medicaid, that's over half of my social security. Bush Sucks!!!! And yes the Border issue is crazy too!
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Spencyspence28
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This is some scary shit.
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popnganja420
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If only there was something we could do... hmmmm
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Ravus
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I think there's more important problems than immigrants. This entire nation is composed of immigrants; as long as basic security measures are in place, I see no problem with them.
Medicaid and Social Security are socialist concepts that never should have existed in the first place.
Nevertheless, why is this in the Health forum? This looks like a Politics, Activism and Law type post.
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the_phoenix
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Re: God damnit. [Re: Ravus]
#4277162 - 06/09/05 06:01 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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A border says 'these' people over hear are different than 'these' people over there. Wtf is with that? We are all one, so come on, don't quabble over what they want you to quabble over. They're making a big deal about border security so that it becomes a big deal to the people. They are promoting hate against those who seek only a chance to live a good life in the good 'ol US of A. There is a very good reason behind everything your president does. It isn't in your best interest, and it isn't obvious. Don't worry about your country, worry about yourself.
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idiocean
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the_phoenix said: A border says 'these' people over hear are different than 'these' people over there. Wtf is with that? We are all one, so come on, don't quabble over what they want you to quabble over. They're making a big deal about border security so that it becomes a big deal to the people. They are promoting hate against those who seek only a chance to live a good life in the good 'ol US of A. There is a very good reason behind everything your president does. It isn't in your best interest, and it isn't obvious. Don't worry about your country, worry about yourself.
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QuantumMeltdown
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Re: God damnit. [Re: Ravus]
#4277610 - 06/09/05 08:06 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ravus said: Nevertheless, why is this in the Health forum? This looks like a Politics, Activism and Law type post.
Very good question. I guess the mods are all hanging out in the pub?
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The_Hobbit
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the_phoenix said: A border says 'these' people over hear are different than 'these' people over there. Wtf is with that? We are all one, so come on, don't quabble over what they want you to quabble over. They're making a big deal about border security so that it becomes a big deal to the people. They are promoting hate against those who seek only a chance to live a good life in the good 'ol US of A. There is a very good reason behind everything your president does. It isn't in your best interest, and it isn't obvious. Don't worry about your country, worry about yourself.
Letting so many illegal aliens into our country is not a good thing. Think about how productive the average American family is compared to how productive mexican illegal aliens are. I'm not saying that some of the people coming here aren't good people, but it seems like a lot aren't.
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Ravus
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Are you saying that illegal immigrants don't work harder than the average American family? From what I've seen, they most definitely work hard to survive, and for less pay at that.
Take from it what you will, but I don't think the work ethic of the illegals is the problem. The legals that go on welfare are a major problem, but that's why we should abolish welfare.
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popnganja420
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Re: God damnit. [Re: Ravus]
#4278933 - 06/10/05 06:52 AM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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I used to be a supervisor for a foam fabrication workshop, and I had about 10 mexicans under me who were all illegal. They are very good workers. The only thing they do is come up here illegally to work, my main guy was 19 years old, he was sending all his money home. He showed me many bank transactions, a $100 US turns into $1000 pesos. Well this guy had two family owned businesses back home, one which he owned. His parent's were using his money to build a house completely paid for. He had a BMW which he bought for $20,000 US down there brand new. He worked for $6 an hour and the average there was 8-9 an hour. But.... they were some damn good workers.
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popnganja420
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Oh, my mexican dude also told me that many chinese companies up here in America will pay $1000 per head to have some one smuggle mexicans into the US. Then the mexican will have to work for free till the debt is paid off and then they earn 2-4$ an hour under the table. And then after so many years, they have an agreement and the mexican may get his greencard somehow.
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newuser1492
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Yeah one comedian said it best. You never see one mexican driving a car, you see 8 mexicans in the car but you can be sure they're all driving to work.
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QuantumMeltdown
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Thats another problem with the illegals coming over here to work. They send all the money they make back home. If they kept it in our country in circulation in our economy that would be one thing but to send the money they earn back to mexico hurts us. The Mexican economy is hurt also because instead of their government having to do anything to make their situation any better they can just send their able bodied young men here and they will leech of our prosperity and send the money back home to support their familys there.
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Edited by QuantumMeltdown (06/10/05 12:34 PM)
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popnganja420
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Hey Quantum.... I know this is off subject of the thread, but can you pm me and tell me about the Folding, that black box under your post?
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RandalFlagg
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Spencyspence28 said: he is letting our borders go uncontroled easily letting in 800 000 people in a day and 30% arent mexican.
I agree that illegal immigration is a big problem, but where did you get that statistic? According to your number 248 million illegals stream over the border every year. Considering that the entire population of the U.S. is only 300 million....I highly doubt your 800,000 a day assertion. There would be billions of people in the U.S. if that statistic was true.
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RandalFlagg
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popnganja420 said: I hate what Bush has done with Social Security
Bush hasn't done anything to Social Security.....yet.
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popnganja420 said: and I pay fuckin $400 a month just to get medical insurance through Medicaid, that's over half of my social security.
I thought Medicaid was free health insurance for poor people. I pay less than $100 a month for private insurance.
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popnganja420
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I get medicaid for the disabled, if I make less than $400 a month its free. My social security is 800 a month. So, you subtract the $400 allowance from the 800 and that's basically what you pay. I had a part time job and had to quit because my medicaid goes up dollar for dollar of what I make. I was only making $100 a week at a fastfood joint and it rose my medicaid by roughly $350 making it at total of $757 a month. Hell with that!!! SSI was giving me $550 a month till SS, and at that time my medicaid was free due to me being on SSI instead of SS.
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popnganja420
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I used to pay $79 a month for Anthem Blue Cross Blue Shield but after I got medicaid I dropped Anthem thinking medicaid was free. Now I can't get insurance because I have bipolar and schizophrenia and I'm too high of a risk to insure. Not to mention the $750 worth of prescriptions I take every month.
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DieCommie

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Re: God damnit. [Re: Ravus]
#4283868 - 06/11/05 03:29 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ravus said:This entire nation is composed of immigrants
Im not an immigrant. I was born here.
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niteowl
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QuantumMeltdown said: Thats another problem with the illegals coming over here to work. They send all the money they make back home. If they kept it in our country in circulation in our economy that would be one thing but to send the money they earn back to mexico hurts us. The Mexican economy is hurt also because instead of their government having to do anything to make their situation any better they can just send their able bodied young men here and they will leech of our prosperity and send the money back home to support their familys there.

Not to mention the Americans that are loosing jobs because of these illegal immigrants.
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popnganja420
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Re: God damnit. [Re: niteowl]
#4290384 - 06/13/05 08:18 AM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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Good point... I always hated replacing an American with a Mexican mainly because my boss didn't care if they spoke english, knew how to use a tape measure, or a table saw. As long as they accepted 3-4 dollars less on the hour than us, they got the job and another good worker was put on the street.
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