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substitute perlite for vermiculite in a casing mixture?
    #4275575 - 06/09/05 01:17 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

howdy howdy... I just accidentally bought a bale of perlite (instead of verm) and was wondering if it could be substituted for vermiculiute in a casing mixture... It would seem to work but I dont want to risk over saturating my little guys with water... anyone have experience with this?


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Re: substitute perlite for vermiculite in a casing mixture? [Re: _illtellyouwhat_]
    #4275587 - 06/09/05 01:20 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

No it cant. Perlite doesnt hold water, it just wicks it. You need verm to hold in the moisture.


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Re: substitute perlite for vermiculite in a casing mixture? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4283359 - 06/11/05 02:22 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

aww shit... oh well... thanks for the reply


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Re: substitute perlite for vermiculite in a casing mixture? [Re: _illtellyouwhat_]
    #4283370 - 06/11/05 02:26 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

i have seen pics of it working but that doesnt mean id go trying it.. like scatman said it doesnt hold water it jus wicks it


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Re: substitute perlite for vermiculite in a casing mixture? [Re: lordoftheshroomz]
    #4283508 - 06/11/05 03:16 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Youve seen pics of perlite substituted for verm in a CASING LAYER? I mean...straight coir or peat works, and if you add perlite to it, it will work too...but all you have is peat there doing any good...its not a point of will it work...of course it will. I can go pick up some pebbles outside though, and sterilize them and add to the casing layer. It will work, but it doesnt do anything..


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How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: substitute perlite for vermiculite in a casing mixture? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4332887 - 06/24/05 05:07 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Hi,

I just tried my first inoculation and I couldn't get my hands on vermiculite so I substituted perlite in the PF Tek method with a 50/50 BRF and Finch Seed.

Everything seemed to go absolutely perfectly until now. I inoculated on 5/21/05 and within a few days got great myclelium growth. All of my jars fully colonized within about 3 weeks but never started pinning.

I put the cakes into my fruiting chamber and hoped for the best but it has been over a week now and there has been no sign of pinning or fruiting. I even put two cakes into the fridge and set them back in and still nothing.

The cakes certainly *smell* like mushrooms and seem to be really solid with mycelium.

Can anyone out there confirm or deny if this may lead to successful fruiting eventually? Or is the whole thing just screwed because I built the cakes on perlite?

Thanks and PEACE.

~Peter.


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Re: substitute perlite for vermiculite in a casing mixture? [Re: DigiGrowIt]
    #4332910 - 06/24/05 05:14 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

peter give it a little more time, sometimes cakes can take up to 2 weeks for pinning. you know about the p word. (patience)
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Re: substitute perlite for vermiculite in a casing mixture? [Re: backupwards]
    #4333047 - 06/24/05 05:44 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I made my first few dozen cakes with perlite, and they worked fine.


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Re: substitute perlite for vermiculite in a casing mixture? [Re: InjectTruth]
    #4333051 - 06/24/05 05:45 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I should add, however, I was only using the cakes as spawn.


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