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100th Monkey
    #4274327 - 06/09/05 01:51 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

What is this? Does it have worth? Any reply appreciated. I am doing some research. Any comments on synchronicity are appreciated.


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Re: 100th Monkey [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #4274329 - 06/09/05 01:52 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I was thinking about Ken Keyes right as I looked at your post. Very amazing. :thumbup: :heart:


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Re: 100th Monkey [Re: Icelander]
    #4274706 - 06/09/05 04:36 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

What a big coincidence.


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Re: 100th Monkey [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #4274730 - 06/09/05 04:50 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

This has been rebutted at aleast a half-dozen times on this forum. It is a myth with no factual basis.

There was no inter-island telepathic link based on some mysterious critical mass.

Keep researching.


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Re: 100th Monkey [Re: Swami]
    #4274893 - 06/09/05 06:23 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I still believe it to be true, because I've seen it happen in the hairless variety of ape.


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Re: 100th Monkey [Re: Swami]
    #4274906 - 06/09/05 06:41 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

On what grounds is it considered myth...if that can be answered quickly. This came up in a conversation about syncronicity tonight where it was held as the evidence in favor of. It sounded bogus, but I just need to know what stick to use to hit it with....or if it is valid then what reverence to grant it.


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Re: 100th Monkey [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #4274952 - 06/09/05 07:32 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

It is considered to be a myth because its only a story, not actual.


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Re: 100th Monkey [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #4274960 - 06/09/05 07:43 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I love the 100th monkey idea, and I think it supports and intensifies your interest in techno-mediated resonance.

I have personally experienced synchronic ideation, in which people in the same scientific field unearth simmilar new findings at approximately the same time with no connection between them except that the field of study seems poised to receive these ideas as followup to the last wave of discoveries.

I prefer to call it a mystery rather than a myth.


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Re: 100th Monkey [Re: redgreenvines]
    #4274975 - 06/09/05 07:54 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

"I love the 100th monkey idea, and I think it supports and intensifies your interest in techno-mediated resonance."

Well, fortunately my TechnoReligion thread has 236 hits. So I got all my monkeys for this to be a reality. You were one of my first hundred monkeys on that thread...so you share responsibility. By the time you read this it will apparently be too late...unless the monkeys can be reset???


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Re: 100th Monkey [Re: redgreenvines]
    #4274981 - 06/09/05 07:58 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I love the 100th monkey idea, and I think it supports...

Your emotional attachment to an idea gives it no extra weight; nor does a falsehood support ANYTHING.


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Re: 100th Monkey [Re: slaphappy]
    #4274983 - 06/09/05 08:00 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks.


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Re: 100th Monkey [Re: Swami]
    #4274986 - 06/09/05 08:01 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Was this truly documented or anecdotal?


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Re: 100th Monkey [Re: Swami]
    #4274988 - 06/09/05 08:04 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Swami said:
I love the 100th monkey idea, and I think it supports...

Your emotional attachment to an idea gives it no extra weight; nor does a falsehood support ANYTHING.




for me, all the weight lifting is emotional, and surely you have seen a raft float on unsubstantial waters; it need only be shaped correctly or less dense altogether.


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Re: 100th Monkey [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #4274993 - 06/09/05 08:09 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Huehuecoyotl said:
What a big coincidence.




yeah, But I think about Ken Keyes alot. I'm a big fan of his other work. I never read his stuff about 100th monkey. :mushroom2:


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Re: 100th Monkey [Re: Icelander]
    #4274998 - 06/09/05 08:14 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I am sorry, but that looked like the lamest collection of books ever. http://mindprod.com/kensbooks.html
He was either full of shit or he knew everything.


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Re: 100th Monkey [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #4275009 - 06/09/05 08:23 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

You don't have to be sorry. I can take it. :grin: And im my opinion from working with them. I would have to go with the "he knew everything" choice. :heart: :mushroom2:


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Re: 100th Monkey [Re: Icelander]
    #4275013 - 06/09/05 08:29 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I just instinctively distrust anyone who seems to have all the answers. Anyway...now that I have got my monkeys all in a row. I am going to bed for a few hours.


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Re: 100th Monkey [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #4275020 - 06/09/05 08:33 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Dito, Did you read his words or what some web site said about him? He's dead now, by the way.

His book the Handbook to higher consciousness can be had on half-com for a few bucks. It takes under an hour to read.

Some time if you're between reads... :mushroom2:


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Re: 100th Monkey [Re: Icelander]
    #4275022 - 06/09/05 08:35 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I was just joking really...never read the stuff....just viewed the site...


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Re: 100th Monkey [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #4275499 - 06/09/05 12:53 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

The only disappointing thing about Ken Keyes Jr that I have came acrossed (keeping in mind I am only familiar with Handbook To Higher Consciousness) is that he believed in the "100th Monkey" concept with absolutely no real evidence to base such a belief on. :thumbdown:

:headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :satansmoking:
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