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OfflineLimelight
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Ecstacy = harmful?
    #4269314 - 06/07/05 09:15 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I know this has been talked about a lot, but I have several specific questions that I couldn't find in search.
1. Simply put, can you die from taking X? I have seen those commercials on TV about the girl who ate it and she died from it. Is this from the actual ecstacy itself, or the things it's mixed with? Please tell me if taking pure X can cause possible death/permanent damage, or is that the shit they put in with it like (stric-9 i think?).
2. how do those testing kits work, and how much are they? How accurate are they? Does that mean that if I buy random ecstacy from someone I don't really know (ie. work) and then I test it, and it comes out perfectly good, i can eat it and be 100% safe? (not considering dehydration and other things I can help).

Thanks :smile: sorry again that these have been asked before at some point  :crazy:


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Re: Ecstacy = harmful? [Re: Limelight]
    #4269333 - 06/07/05 09:21 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

i know u can die from X but iv never taken it so i dont know alot about it yet


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Re: Ecstacy = harmful? [Re: Limelight]
    #4269345 - 06/07/05 09:25 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: Ecstacy = harmful? [Re: Limelight]
    #4269361 - 06/07/05 09:29 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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Limelight said:
I know this has been talked about a lot, but I have several specific questions that I couldn't find in search.
1. Simply put, can you die from taking X? I have seen those commercials on TV about the girl who ate it and she died from it. Is this from the actual ecstacy itself, or the things it's mixed with? Please tell me if taking pure X can cause possible death/permanent damage, or is that the shit they put in with it like (stric-9 i think?).
2. how do those testing kits work, and how much are they? How accurate are they? Does that mean that if I buy random ecstacy from someone I don't really know (ie. work) and then I test it, and it comes out perfectly good, i can eat it and be 100% safe? (not considering dehydration and other things I can help).

Thanks :smile: sorry again that these have been asked before at some point  :crazy:




1- you can die from a lot of things... i've heard of a few people dieing from combining ecstasy with a variety of other drugs. i've also heard of people dieing from dehydration while on ecstasy. ive heard of people dieing from PMA being sold as ecstasy. but ive never heard of anyone dieing from simply taking a little bit of mdma.

2- a test kit will tell what substance in dominant in your speck of powder. they cost around $20-30, buy one from dancesafe because the proceeds go to their harm reduction work. the test kits will tell you what it is, but not how potent it is. if your pill has 20mg of mdma in it, it will test positive, but you wont feel a single dose and will think you got ripped off..

what else is on your mind?


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Re: Ecstacy = harmful? [Re: Rono]
    #4269370 - 06/07/05 09:29 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

It's okay to try it.

But it is extremely bad for your brain... producing that mich seratonin at one time is a drain....

stick with somethign envoking and natural... liek mushrooms, lotus, peyote, salvia....etc


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Re: Ecstacy = harmful? [Re: iloveraving]
    #4269376 - 06/07/05 09:31 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I think the majority of deaths attributed to ecstasy is due to dehydration.

As with all drugs be careful and get educated (which you are obviously trying to do :handth: )


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Re: Ecstacy = harmful? [Re: Limelight]
    #4269395 - 06/07/05 09:39 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I don't know. I did a mission to mars or is it rocket to the moon?? Anyways, I died..


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Re: Ecstacy = harmful? [Re: iloveraving]
    #4269610 - 06/07/05 10:48 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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iloveraving said:
1- you can die from a lot of things... i've heard of a few people dieing from combining ecstasy with a variety of other drugs. i've also heard of people dieing from dehydration while on ecstasy. ive heard of people dieing from PMA being sold as ecstasy. but ive never heard of anyone dieing from simply taking a little bit of mdma.




People are also known to fatally dehydrate from taking pills containing DXM.


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Re: Ecstacy = harmful? [Re: InsatiableThirst]
    #4269633 - 06/07/05 10:52 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I've taken massive doses of DXM, and conversely I cannot piss on it. It becomes seriously impossible at 700+ milligrams for me, though my reality is so far removed that I barely care about it.

But if combined with MDMA or methylamphetamines, who knows what would happen?

And dehydration isn't the only problem, people also drink too much water without balancing it out. It's good to keep a nice jug of water next to you, but also eat pretzels and other foods to balance out all the water you're drinking.


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Re: Ecstacy = harmful? [Re: Ravus]
    #4269648 - 06/07/05 10:56 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Indeed. It depends on where you take it as well. (DXM I mean) People who do pills they don't realize contains DXM and go to the club and dance their ass off, can become fatally overheated. If you're sitting at home and just chilling, of course it's not going to dehydrate you as much as dancing in a club for hours. I've always been weary of DXM.


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Re: Ecstacy = harmful? [Re: InsatiableThirst]
    #4272900 - 06/08/05 07:48 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Hmm, so what about just pure MDMA? What are the chances of getting a pill, testing it and have it come out GOOD, and then eating it and die/become harmed? I dont care about dxm because im not interested in that :smile:


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Re: Ecstacy = harmful? [Re: Limelight]
    #4272968 - 06/08/05 08:11 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Pure MDMA is only harmful in the sense that it targets the neurons in the brain that produce serotonin and drains them.. this can disrupt the body's ability to control its temperature in the short term, and leave the user feeling "drained" the next day or two. In very extreme cases can cause the blood to coagulate.

However, it has been shown that Marijuana, our old friend Cannabis Sativa.. has a neuro-protective effect. That is, it coats the neurons in a film that protects and even heals them. Combined with MDMA, there is a symbiotic relationship, and the neurons do not suffer nearly as much. So smoke weed.

Also, by taking 5-htp, a pre-cursor to serotonin, one may help the body to re-establish proper serotonin levels quite quickly, and may not even notice a 'hangover' feeling.

Also it is imperative to remain hydrated. Like others said, the largest cause of death on MDMA is due to dehydration. I would think the next biggest cause would be that you never really know what your beans have been cut with. Always best to research your pills and find out if anyone else has tested them, so you know the contents. Some beans are just DXM or PCP.

* Long-term heavy use can be linked to brain damage.. in that the neurons involved have been resculpted.. but these studies are largely incomplete and only show a very small number of different types of heavy MDMA users. Much of the damage could be attributed to other drugs making up 'ecstacy'. But overall, MDMA is a relatively harmless drug (when compared to say.. aspirin, with its 10,000+ deaths a year), and the majority of MDMA users are in good health. So no, it will not burn holes in your brain.


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Re: Ecstacy = harmful? [Re: Limelight]
    #4273043 - 06/08/05 08:36 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

not using ecstacy in moderation = harmful


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    #4273202 - 06/08/05 09:24 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Ecstacy = harmful? [Re: MAIA]
    #4273401 - 06/08/05 10:06 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

whats the difference between 'E pills' and mdma?

also, if you do a test on ecstacy pills and it comes out good, is there still a possibility of taking PCP? I heard that is badddd shit, and i would not want to take it at all.


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Re: Ecstacy = harmful? [Re: Limelight]
    #4273426 - 06/08/05 10:12 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

MDMA = 3,4-Methylenedioxymethamphetamine
"E Pills" = can contain any number of things.. usually anything from MDMA to caffeine to DXM to MDA to a mix between any of those.

And yeah..pills with PCP are rare.. but have been known to exist.

I suggest you look at this - http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/mdma.shtml
and this - www.dancesafe.org


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easy [Re: Limelight]
    #4273461 - 06/08/05 10:19 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

easy


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Re: Ecstacy = harmful? [Re: finding_self]
    #4275298 - 06/09/05 11:49 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Eventually...


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Re: Ecstacy = harmful? [Re: iloveraving]
    #4275788 - 06/09/05 02:05 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

iloveraving said:
1- you can die from a lot of things... i've heard of a few people dieing from combining ecstasy with a variety of other drugs. i've also heard of people dieing from dehydration while on ecstasy. ive heard of people dieing from PMA being sold as ecstasy. but ive never heard of anyone dieing from simply taking a little bit of mdma.



It has happened. But usually it's because the person is allergic. By the same token, many people are allergic to aspirin, causing thousands of deaths each year.


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Re: Ecstacy = harmful? [Re: Shroomism]
    #7612115 - 11/08/07 07:24 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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Pure MDMA is only harmful in the sense that it targets the neurons in the brain that produce serotonin and drains them.. this can disrupt the body's ability to control its temperature in the short term, and leave the user feeling "drained" the next day or two. In very extreme cases can cause the blood to coagulate.

However, it has been shown that Marijuana, our old friend Cannabis Sativa.. has a neuro-protective effect. That is, it coats the neurons in a film that protects and even heals them. Combined with MDMA, there is a symbiotic relationship, and the neurons do not suffer nearly as much. So smoke weed.

Also, by taking 5-htp, a pre-cursor to serotonin, one may help the body to re-establish proper serotonin levels quite quickly, and may not even notice a 'hangover' feeling.

Also it is imperative to remain hydrated. Like others said, the largest cause of death on MDMA is due to dehydration. I would think the next biggest cause would be that you never really know what your beans have been cut with. Always best to research your pills and find out if anyone else has tested them, so you know the contents. Some beans are just DXM or PCP.

* Long-term heavy use can be linked to brain damage.. in that the neurons involved have been resculpted.. but these studies are largely incomplete and only show a very small number of different types of heavy MDMA users. Much of the damage could be attributed to other drugs making up 'ecstacy'. But overall, MDMA is a relatively harmless drug (when compared to say.. aspirin, with its 10,000+ deaths a year), and the majority of MDMA users are in good health. So no, it will not burn holes in your brain. 




wow amazing. ive been doing e the past 2 weekends and i just had a feelin to smoke alot of weed the next day and it did help lol

but yeah as for headaches... simple belief that the brain has regenerative powers, just as in the same way that the body has for muscles :smile::)


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