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Offlinelonestar2004
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What Will Future Generations Say?
    #4268143 - 06/07/05 03:56 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

June 7, 2005
What Will Future Generations Say?
By Thomas Sowell

We may look back on some eras as heroic -- that of the founding fathers or "the greatest generation" that fought World War II -- but some eras we look back on in disbelief at the utter stupidity with which people ruined their economies or blundered into wars in which every country involved ended up worse off than before.

How will people a century from now look back on our era?

Fortunately, most of us will be long gone by then, so we will be spared the embarrassment of seeing ourselves judged.

What will future generations say about how we behaved when confronted by international terrorist organizations that have repeatedly demonstrated their cut-throat ruthlessness and now had the prospect of getting nuclear weapons from rogue nations like Iran and North Korea?

What will future generations think when they see the front pages of our leading newspapers repeatedly preoccupied with whether we are treating captured cut-throats nicely enough? What will they think when they see the Geneva Convention invoked to protect people who are excluded from protection by the Geneva Convention?

During World War II, German soldiers who were captured not wearing the uniform of their own army were simply lined up against a wall and shot dead by American troops.

This was not a scandal. Far from being covered up by the military, movies were taken of the executions and have since been shown on the History Channel. We understood then that the Geneva Convention protected people who obeyed the Geneva Convention, not those who didn't -- as terrorists today certainly do not.

What will those who look back on these times think when they see that the American Civil Liberties Union, and others who have made excuses for all sorts of criminals, were pushing for the prosecution of our own troops for life-and-death decisions they had a split second to make in the heat of combat?

The frivolous demands made on our military -- that they protect museums while fighting for their lives, that they tiptoe around mosques from which people are shooting at them -- betray an irresponsibility made worse by ingratitude toward men who have put their lives on the line to protect us.

It is impossible to fight a war without heroism. Yet can you name a single American military hero acclaimed by the media for an act of courage in combat? Such courage is systematically ignored by most of the media.

If American troops kill a hundred terrorists in battle and lose ten of their own men doing it, the only headline will be: "Ten More Americans Killed in Iraq Today."

Those in the media who have carped at the military for years, and have repeatedly opposed military spending, are now claiming to be "honoring" our military by making a big production out of publishing the names of all those killed in Iraq. Will future generations see through this hypocrisy -- and wonder why we did not?

What will the generations of the future say if we allow Iran and North Korea to develop nuclear weapons, which are then turned over to terrorists who can begin to annihilate American cities?

Our descendants will wonder how we could have let this happen, when we had the power to destroy any nation posing such a threat. Knowing that we had the power, they would have to wonder why we did not have the will -- and why it was so obvious that we did not.

Nothing will more painfully reveal the irresponsible frivolity of our times than the many demands in the media and in politics that we act only with the approval of the United Nations and after winning over "world opinion."

How long this will take and what our enemies will be doing in the meantime while we are going through these futile exercises is something that gets very little attention.

Do you remember Osama bin Laden warning us, on the eve of last year's elections, that he would retaliate against those parts of the United States that voted for Bush? The United States is not Spain, so we disregarded his threats.

But what of future generations, after international terrorists get nuclear weapons? And what will our descendants think of us -- will they ever forgive us -- for leaving them in such a desperate situation because we were paralyzed by a desire to placate "world opinion"?


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Re: What Will Future Generations Say? [Re: lonestar2004]
    #4268453 - 06/07/05 04:51 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Lemme guess, exactly what this guy thinks right?  :rolleyes:


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Re: What Will Future Generations Say? [Re: Anisotropic]
    #4268558 - 06/07/05 05:21 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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Anisotropic said:
Lemme guess, exactly what this guy thinks right?  :rolleyes:




worst response in the history of PA&L


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Re: What Will Future Generations Say? [Re: lonestar2004]
    #4268567 - 06/07/05 05:26 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

How will people a century from now look back on our era?

After the collapse of society due to the quickly depleted oil supply society will lose it's ability to progress technologically and in fact will regress to a much earlier state. With the subsequent loss of modern technology cities will fall apart and people will return to communal living. Many records of the past, even recent past will be lost. In a century the worries of today will be long forgotten.


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Re: What Will Future Generations Say? [Re: looner2]
    #4269070 - 06/07/05 08:13 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

" Anisotropic said:
Lemme guess, exactly what this guy thinks right?



worst response in the history of PA&L"

I don't understand what's so bad about it. That whole artical was filled with so much rhetoric, because history will surely be on his side.

"If American troops kill a hundred terrorists in battle and lose ten of their own men doing it, the only headline will be: "Ten More Americans Killed in Iraq Today."

Its mostly full of pointed anecdotal speculation, combined with hypothetical situations. To 'prove', ofcourse, that anti bush/war people will be looked down on in future years.

But what he really means is 'I look down on the people that don't like the war now." That paper should have been one line.


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Re: What Will Future Generations Say? [Re: cb9fl]
    #4269080 - 06/07/05 08:15 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I hope that happens for their sake.


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Re: What Will Future Generations Say? [Re: cb9fl]
    #4271725 - 06/08/05 02:36 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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cb9fl said:
How will people a century from now look back on our era?

After the collapse of society due to the quickly depleted oil supply society will lose it's ability to progress technologically and in fact will regress to a much earlier state. With the subsequent loss of modern technology cities will fall apart and people will return to communal living. Many records of the past, even recent past will be lost. In a century the worries of today will be long forgotten.




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Re: What Will Future Generations Say? [Re: trendal]
    #4274743 - 06/09/05 04:55 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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What will future generations think when they see the front pages of our leading newspapers repeatedly preoccupied with whether we are treating captured cut-throats nicely enough? What will they think when they see the Geneva Convention invoked to protect people who are excluded from protection by the Geneva Convention?

During World War II, German soldiers who were captured not wearing the uniform of their own army were simply lined up against a wall and shot dead by American troops.

This was not a scandal. Far from being covered up by the military, movies were taken of the executions and have since been shown on the History Channel. We understood then that the Geneva Convention protected people who obeyed the Geneva Convention, not those who didn't -- as terrorists today certainly do not.




Quoted so you hippies have to read it again.

Geneva, by the defintion of Geneva, does not apply. Nor do any of the agreements of war made at the Hague, or anywhere else.


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Re: What Will Future Generations Say? [Re: Mushmonkey]
    #4274918 - 06/09/05 06:56 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Just because something isn't in Geneva doesn't make it right.


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Re: What Will Future Generations Say? [Re: Signo]
    #4274959 - 06/09/05 07:43 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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Just because something isn't in Geneva doesn't make it right.




Exactly!

Anyway, I think it will be more embarassing when people look back and see how easy it was to pull the wool over the eyes of people and convince them that Bush and Co's actions were necessary and just...


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Re: What Will Future Generations Say? [Re: Signo]
    #4275292 - 06/09/05 11:45 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

.... do you have any idea WHY those non-uniformed combatants were summarily killed?



Anyhow, my point in requoting that was not to point out right or wrongness -- merely to point out that in deciding such a thing, Geneva cannot be used as it does not apply.


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