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Chances, Chance
    #4266717 - 06/07/05 06:44 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

does not exist.

All of it is a mathematical illusion.

If _______, then __________.

Think about it, rolling a die. if you were to roll the die the exact same way twice it would say the same thing. the way your fingers "randomly" roll the die off the bigger HAND is nothing more than the chemical If, Then. that is happening in your brain right now. Humans are impressionable.


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Re: Chances, Chance [Re: A010011000111]
    #4267078 - 06/07/05 10:41 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

this linear approach will get you int o a lot of trouble but you might will small awards from swami for trying to be logical.

most of what happens is a result of turbulent forces
- you can usually guestimate which forces are dominant and proudly apply linear thought (syllogisms), but the world is not actually engineered that simply.

to work with conceptual turbulence, you need a streamlined mind with good wings and safe flying habits.


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Re: Chances, Chance [Re: redgreenvines]
    #4267088 - 06/07/05 10:45 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

what are you talking about? Turbulency and chaos is just certainty beyond out limit of precision or ability to measure.
Every paricle in a chaotic turbulence follows the same set of rules as some imaginary perfect sphere in elementary school math. and a turbulence is predetermined when ALL factors are considered (every force and every particle in the universe)


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Re: Chances, Chance [Re: A010011000111]
    #4267097 - 06/07/05 10:49 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

an eye for an eye..

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Re: Chances, Chance [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #4267187 - 06/07/05 11:45 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

can you assume to have allowed for all factors?


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Re: Chances, Chance [Re: redgreenvines]
    #4267351 - 06/07/05 12:51 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

no, human can never take every factor into account, but that doesn't meen things don't have their logical predetermined outcome just because humans can't calculate it


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Re: Chances, Chance [Re: A010011000111]
    #4267384 - 06/07/05 01:03 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Chances are mathematical illusions called probabilities.

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Re: Chances, Chance [Re: MAIA]
    #4276503 - 06/09/05 05:08 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

YES.


this is exactly what i am trying to say.


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Re: Chances, Chance [Re: A010011000111]
    #4277209 - 06/09/05 08:14 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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A010011000111 said:
YES.


this is exactly what i am trying to say.




I dont think it is. Probability is chance.

Quote:

n 1: a measure of how likely it is that some event will occur; "what is the probability of rain?"; "we have a good chance of winning" [syn: chance] 2: the quality of being probable




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Re: Chances, Chance [Re: Fospher]
    #4277894 - 06/09/05 11:38 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Fospher said:
Quote:

A010011000111 said:
YES.


this is exactly what i am trying to say.




I dont think it is. Probability is chance.






i DO think it is what im trying to say. it may not be the exact literal meaning, but when dude said that, something clicked and i say "thats what i mean."


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