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Offlinehollisatp
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Dunk or cold shock?
    #4261726 - 06/05/05 11:43 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

My cakes have completly stopped fruiting. I did not dunk after birthing. They did start to fruit right away but stopped. They do look like they need water and are a little shrunken. What should I do?


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Re: Dunk or cold shock? [Re: hollisatp]
    #4261781 - 06/06/05 12:00 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

If any primordia form-ed..scrape it off. Carefully.

Dunk in water for 12-24 hours...

Tap is ok if it's not hard water, spring water works well.

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Re: Dunk or cold shock? [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #4261787 - 06/06/05 12:02 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Why scrape off Primordia?? just curious


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Re: Dunk or cold shock? [Re: psyillyazul]
    #4261796 - 06/06/05 12:05 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

primordia?


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Re: Dunk or cold shock? [Re: psyillyazul]
    #4261797 - 06/06/05 12:05 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Primordia dunked in water...Will rot

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Re: Dunk or cold shock? [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #4261799 - 06/06/05 12:07 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

what is primordia?


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Re: Dunk or cold shock? [Re: hollisatp]
    #4261812 - 06/06/05 12:10 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Primordium The initial Fruiting body, the stage before Pinhead
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Re: Dunk or cold shock? [Re: backupwards]
    #4261829 - 06/06/05 12:14 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Primordia in water will grow. From my experience, which isn't much, existing primordia after being dunked fruit as normal if not damaged in the process. I dunked a rye cake for 36hrs pins on, things were fine. Maybe just luck.


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Re: Dunk or cold shock? [Re: psyillyazul]
    #4261850 - 06/06/05 12:19 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Maybe just luck.




It doesn't rot right off the bat. But if it's in it's late stages and has mushroom tissue, :thumbdown:

Best to just say scrape it off,lol, to avoid a thread intitled "They Said Dunk,Now it's Rotten" er some shit. But either way :shrug:

:thumbup:

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Re: Dunk or cold shock? [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #4261858 - 06/06/05 12:21 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

aren't the primordia just the little acumulations of myc, though?? not pins that have developed tissue?? are we talking scrape pins or primordia?? now I'm confused.


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Re: Dunk or cold shock? [Re: psyillyazul]
    #4261921 - 06/06/05 12:33 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Goes like this...

Hyphea=Primordia=Pins=Mushrooms....


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Re: Dunk or cold shock? [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #4262013 - 06/06/05 12:50 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Hey IGnosticAbhorI ,

I did what you said and checked the site but cannot find a definate picture of the primordia. The cake is totaly covered wit mycelium, there were small patches of puffy mycelium growing, but no larger than a pen tip. But they were flat and paperlike, like they grew when inside the jar. Did not look anything different than the mycelium though.


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Re: Dunk or cold shock? [Re: hollisatp]
    #4262035 - 06/06/05 12:55 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Primordia = Knots.

Anything less is nothing to worry about.

I'll look for some pics

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Re: Dunk or cold shock? [Re: hollisatp]
    #4262412 - 06/06/05 02:32 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

See the little dots. Primordia. EDIT: The circled thing is a pin. The white bumps are primordia.


This is a closeup.. the bumps of white are primorida.. the ones with dark heads(caps) are pins.


Does that help?
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Re: Dunk or cold shock? [Re: hollisatp]
    #4262595 - 06/06/05 04:14 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I've had small pins survive a 24 hr dunk many times, as far as the dunk or shock do both it's easy enough.


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