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 scarymidgets
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from personal experience takein same dose separate time same flush dried frozen
2 weeks from 1st trip to the next i noticed no difference between takein vitamin c an not takine vitamin c
when i was a kid an LSD was around here all the ravers use to swear by vitamin c but i haven't seen one study sayin anything about it doing squat i throw that one up to urban legends an stupid kids.. but if you can link me with something creditable id love to check it out .. but yea taking some vitamin c is good for you, but help you trip harder? think that's just hippie chatter caz some kids saw fear an loathing in las Vegas and he was eatin grapefruit sayin we need all the vitamin c we can get
also funny thing about trippin when you think something is gona help you trip harder it just might
its called power of suggestion
kinda like when your trippin nutts an someone says rat and you look over an see a shit load of rats that arent there..
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 Re: WUT THE F*CK  [Re: Hotnuts]
#4262057 - 06/05/05 10:57 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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well off my next flush i will try that theory and get back with you.
until then see ya in lala land
peace
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Hotnuts
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Peace out. like I said though, the %'s are aroung 50%. You'll see what I mean.
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IGnosticAbhorI
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Re: WUT THE F*CK [Re: Hotnuts]
#4262092 - 06/05/05 11:02 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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I don't base theories off of myths.
Let me look for the link. It was in Adv. Cult.
-Gnostic
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Hotnuts
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It's not a myth. It's a fact that i've indered myself. Like I mentioned. There are a lot of variables and the percentages are low. But it does in fact happen. All being cases of wet fungus.
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deathbychimney
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Re: WUT THE F*CK [Re: Hotnuts]
#4262143 - 06/05/05 11:13 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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unfortunately it's neither a fact or a theory, it's an observation. there's a big difference.
anyone have any scientific proof proving opposite?
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deathbychimney
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also what were people dosing at? were you weighing out 3.5 grams of half dry mushrooms?
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IGnosticAbhorI
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Quote:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/4038727/an/0/page/4
That's one...
Here's similar shit.
Beocrysin(sp)
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http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/4026549/an/0/page/4
Chemical Properties and about the temps. at which they 
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http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/1178783/an/0/page/6
Read Penlight's Post here
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http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/3768343/an/0/page/15
Trytophan fun
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http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/3576822/an/0/page/17
Alright, done looking for it lol.
I'll find it later, Def. not worth all this work to prove such a meak point.
-Gnostic
Edited by IGnosticAbhorI (06/05/05 11:29 PM)
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IGnosticAbhorI
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Re: WUT THE F*CK [Re: Hotnuts]
#4262172 - 06/05/05 11:20 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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hotnutz said:
It's not a myth. It's a fact that i've indered myself. Like I mentioned. There are a lot of variables and the percentages are low. But it does in fact happen. All being cases of wet fungus.
Facts can be proven.
Prove it.
At what point does it gain anything? I'm really curious.
Hell, Pm me about it. I'm bored 
Tc man
-Gnostic
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IGnosticAbhorI
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btw
Fear and loathing is so funny haha
"Good god man, god-damnNarcotic" ahh HAhahahahAha
Don't remeber the part about the grape-fruit tho 
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scarymidgets
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i can just as easily post threads stating the exact opposite
i love when people say the acidity help break down the mushies
hehe
sure you get heart burn but your stomach acid can eat though steel givein a enough time.
but instead i suggest any one who is curious searching for vitamin c and just reading 2 or 3 post all the way through
its one of those things that not everyone can agree upon.
as it stands i think we should just
agree to disagree
i think a good way to find out would to document a trip with double blind dose
so the test subject doesn't know if hes takein the concoction with vitamin c or not document the experience 2 weeks later do it again
maybe 10 times or so then post results that would be cool
as that stands maybe if a few people did it then we could get a better sense in what is really goin on
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IGnosticAbhorI
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acidity help break down the mushies
hehe
sure you get heart burn but your stomach acid can eat though steel givein a enough time.
If you put it in Acid. I wonder what would happen.
If it was in your stomach, gee i wonder,yes itd break it down some, W/ or W/O vit C., so that doesn't matter. But it was a nice way of trying to change the tables...lol
Anyways, yea, I'm done.
Good post thought.
Gl Lord, Post back with everything you did and all of your procedures 
-Gnostic
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tahoe
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sounds like my general feeling towards eq's
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Hotnuts
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LOL! Like I said. I get this  when I mention it sometimes. It's a weird thing for sure. I only say it's a fact because i've encountered the prob myself. Not a scientifical fact, but just one i've encountered. So I know there's something to it. What the cause is, I don't know. I've started a thread @ Mycotopia to see if I can get some answers from the pros there. Hippie, Stephen Peele and Rodger will be able to give us better answers than I can. LOL! Lets see what happens with the thread.
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Re: WUT THE F*CK [Re: Hotnuts]
#4262515 - 06/06/05 01:24 AM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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yeah man, i believe it. my gf and i took a decent dose of partially dried caps (18-36 hours old) and didnt trip. ingested around 12:00AM but couldnt fall asleep till around 8AM. it kept us up just no trip. so its something really weird. real research into it would be interesting.
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scatmanrav
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Re: WUT THE F*CK [Re: Hotnuts]
#4262550 - 06/06/05 01:43 AM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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hotnutz said:
It's not a myth. It's a fact that i've indered myself. Like I mentioned. There are a lot of variables and the percentages are low. But it does in fact happen. All being cases of wet fungus.
Me and many others who have tried wet, shrooms sitting out after harvested for 24 hours, shrooms 12 hours off the dehydrator (a little more then half done) and dry...would disagree. Doses were similar.
I think big jumps can occur not knowing exact water content, until dried. This is a big debate I dont feel like getting into though...I just dont see the theory being correct, and its definatly not a fact.
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Hotnuts
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I'm not saying that my expalnations are a fact, it's a fact it's happened to me also. Not trips with heavy doses of wet shrooms. Sorry for that. I should've made that clearer. I've seen plenty of cases or threads were people were in the same boots as this thread starter. My theory is just somethin to throw at the rare, but on going problem. I've noticed that this problem is more occurring with fungus that has a skin that hasn't started to really dry yet. Not much drying at all. I'd say 2-3 hours after harvesting and up to the skin hasn't started a wrinkle yet.
Edited by hotnutz (06/06/05 02:21 AM)
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lordoftheshroomz
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Re: WUT THE F*CK [Re: Hotnuts]
#4262666 - 06/06/05 05:28 AM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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so after all that....
like i said i inoculated grain, i believe wbs with pesa spores from spores direct, incubated at normal temp 80-86, spawned the grain to h/poo, h/poo fully colonized, cased with 50/50+ tek, fruited in open air while misteing frequently, harvested shroomz weren't purposefulyl bruied but enough was there to indicate potency, dry shroom was not excessively bruised.... i ate 10.5g wet and 1g dry... the equivalent to 2.05 wet... ate with vitamin c pill and lemonade... did not even get a buzz or a stomach ache or anything. WHY PEOPLE.. WHY!?! im gonna eat 70 wet grams next time....
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Turned_To_Stone
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Personally speaking, I've always tripped harder off of fresh shrooms..be it right out of the field or from my few tries with indoor cultivation.
I usually dose at between 25 and 30 grams wet, and always have a nice time with fairly good visuals.
Good luck.
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TerrapinSunrise
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avoid vitamin C and dairy before and during tripping. vitamins, sugar, and supposedly dairy also will lessen the effects of the trip. i've experienced the effects of vitamin C on both a shroom trip and an acid trip. on both of those trips i was wondering "why am i coming down so soon??" as i continued to eat vitamin C thinking it would HELP the trip... oh no, never take vitamins during trips...
also you may need higher dose. take a solid eigth or more (3.5g +) of dried. 30-40g wet. many people believe real tripping doesn't begin until at least 5g dried. i've not quite reached that point yet, but 4g is pretty good.
peace.
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