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    #4259599 - 06/05/05 01:06 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

im sure many of you have been to this page before, but i have a few questions, in some pictures, i notice he mentions: "New series: 1st through 5th flushes of B+ on Dung Brothers compost.
I think most of you will really enjoy this series of pictures. This one shows 5 flushes at different stages. You can really see what to expect from a superior cubie on one the best substrates available, dung based compost. This series also shows an extreme close up of the surface of healthy mycelium growing and just how wet it gets and that is ok. It also shows the yellowing metabolites (mycelium waste) which is very normal most ppl mistake for contamination. This series has a little of it all, check it out.
These were started from multi-spore inoculation of rye grain, used to spawn a mere 10lbs of wet compost. Thats not much substrate folks."

and in his pictures, he is growing it in what looks like a regular plastic tub..... since i never really find any shrooms here in houston, i want to start growing them myself. would ordering spore prints or syringes be the best method and are there holes or anything in that tub maybe? im totally lost i could ask a bunch of questions but i really dont wanna embarass myself. just a few questions are, is it mulch he is using in the tub? where does the white stuff (colonized ready for fruiting??) come from? what is a syringe? (lol)

im interested in buying some cube b+ syringes from him but i dont want to waste money. if anyone can help me out with what supplies i need to get started thatd be great, ive done tons and tons of research but i find cultivating and preserving the most frustrating things to do. any help is greatly appreciated thanks alot!

-Steve


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Re: http://www.thehawkseye.com/b+/b+.html [Re: shr00mtr1p]
    #4259611 - 06/05/05 01:09 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

That is the Dung Brother's compost you're seeing. It was a top notch compost that excelled at being fruited in its own tub, no casing layer or anything. High performance stuff, 10 LBS. threw out a couple dry ozs. per flush with no maintenance and no casing layer. Absolutely monster shrooms, I'll never forget my harvests from the 10 LBS. kit.

Rumor has it that High Mountain Compost was taught the DB recipe, but I'm not sure how close it is to the original.

So, that's what you're seeing...I hope that helps.


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Re: http://www.thehawkseye.com/b+/b+.html [Re: shr00mtr1p]
    #4259623 - 06/05/05 01:12 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

You could order a syringe (easiest way for your first grow probably). I would order from Ralph or any of the other sponsors. Or try getting a print from the FSR ( http://www.fsrcanada.com/ ) and making your own syringe if you'd like.

I would suggest going with the pf tek for your first grow.

Links with tons of info, etc. on that are here

http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/23588

You say you've researched, but you have asked what a syringe is lol. :-)

You need to read more. We'd be glad to help you out! :-) Just try reading those links I gave you, they will help a ton.


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Re: http://www.thehawkseye.com/b+/b+.html [Re: Holydiver]
    #4259626 - 06/05/05 01:14 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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That is the Dung Brother's compost you're seeing. It was a top notch compost that excelled at being fruited in its own tub, no casing layer or anything. High performance stuff, 10 LBS. threw out a couple dry ozs. per flush with no maintenance and no casing layer. Absolutely monster shrooms, I'll never forget my harvests from the 10 LBS. kit.

Rumor has it that High Mountain Compost was taught the DB recipe, but I'm not sure how close it is to the original.

So, that's what you're seeing...I hope that helps.




thanks that does help alot


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Re: http://www.thehawkseye.com/b+/b+.html [Re: myndreach]
    #4259630 - 06/05/05 01:16 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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You could order a syringe (easiest way for your first grow probably). I would order from Ralph or any of the other sponsors. Or try getting a print from the FSR ( http://www.fsrcanada.com/ ) and making your own syringe if you'd like.

I would suggest going with the pf tek for your first grow.

Links with tons of info, etc. on that are here

http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/23588

You say you've researched, but you have asked what a syringe is lol. :-)

You need to read more. We'd be glad to help you out! :-) Just try reading those links I gave you, they will help a ton.




yes i have done plenty of research, maybe too much which is why i get so confused, but all i have seen are refernces to syringes on various occasions, nothing as to what it actually is... and how would i make a syringe from prints? i will check the links u sent me thanksa lot

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Re: http://www.thehawkseye.com/b+/b+.html [Re: shr00mtr1p]
    #4259699 - 06/05/05 01:43 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

A syringe is some spores from the print, in sterilized distilled water. The spore water can then easily be injected through a hole in your jar lids. There are numerous ways, but the key is remaining sterile. Any way to sterilize water, and scrape some spores into it (in a sterile location) like a shot glass or anything, then just suck up the spore water with an empty syringe.

You have ALOT more researching to do. You havnt done plenty until youve been researching a few dozen hours a week, for months. I researched for a year, probably a few hundred hours before begining my first grow.


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Re: http://www.thehawkseye.com/b+/b+.html [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4259781 - 06/05/05 02:10 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

just for a simple grow i don't think you really NEED to research for a few dozen hours per week for months.

if you want to be good and not have ANY questions, yeah, but just to do pftek or another simple grow with low yields, it's pretty easy to figure out the basic process.

that said, you don't know what a syringe is so yeah you need to keep reading.


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Re: http://www.thehawkseye.com/b+/b+.html [Re: deathbychimney]
    #4259827 - 06/05/05 02:25 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

True, true...but you do need to put a few dozen hours researching in, from the start...when multiple questions like what is the white stuff and how do you make it and what is a syringe...ect...that means you definatly havnt done plenty. Some may have to do more then others as well because some dont learn as quickly. If you have a hard time understanding what everyone is talking about...it just means you need to read more...read read read and it will all become clear.

The other thing is, you can be successful and get a few shrooms without doing much reading...but most people want more then just a few shrooms, and they want the great potency, and they want to do it over and over again. If its something your even somewhat serious about, alot more time should be spent reading because even with the PF Tek, there are numerous issues that people dont even relise on how they can optimize what they're doing, because they've never read about it and so dont know the questions to ask. You dont NEED to know what transpirations is or how it works for a low yield grow, or even a high yeild grow...that doesnt mean it wont improve your grow overall if you do. Thats why I'm always a fan of more reading then not.

Of course a person could probably get away with a few hours research if they came across the shroomery first and just did a basic grow, if your just looking for mushrooms. Most are interested in the process as well though and you can never fully understand the process, or the mushrooms without the proper reading, unless you like alot of experimenting.

Ok, enough stoned rambling...back to cooking poo.


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Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: http://www.thehawkseye.com/b+/b+.html [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4259989 - 06/05/05 03:25 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Mouse over "mushroom info" up top, then "growing mushrooms" and then "spore prints and syringes".

A spore syringe is a sterilized water solution with mushroom spores in the water, all inside a syringe. It is used to inject the spores into a jar for growth.


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Re: http://www.thehawkseye.com/b+/b+.html [Re: myndreach]
    #4260082 - 06/05/05 03:56 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

ok just to update everyone on my ignorance.

i found out this site actually has the step by step way to cultivating your own shrooms thanks to myndreach.  and just from that 3 page article/tutorial i learned alot more.....  i fell totally retarted not knowing what a syringe was. i could have used contesxt clues to figure out what they were from how people were using them in what they were saying.  i also realized why you guys r explaining to me i need to do MORE research.  all the reserach i have done is when i go and pick shrooms, i make sure they r not deadly or poisonous before i ingest them.  so most of this research i have done, has nothing to do with making my own.  which is why im so oblivious as to the first step to growing my own.  it is illegal here in the states, but with my moms support i should be able 2 get away with it.  after all i wont be selling them, just eating them. :smile: 

i also found out growing my own shrooms is much me the preferred method for me since its much MUCH MUCH cleaner.  i hate having to deal with dirt and bugs and nasty crap all over the shrooms and the constant worry of it being completely clean or not. 

that much said, im not exactly sure on a few things but have some ideas...  the reproduction of shrooms is thru their spores, correct? before i harvest my shrooms should i tap their cap making sure to leave any spores on the cakes to grown more?  should i still do prints after harvest or am i sure to get psychadelic shrooms?  one thing i still have yet to understand... what r "flushes"?

sorry to take alot of time out of your life to read this long ass post but im learning and nothing feels better than to LEARN!!!  ...cough...

thanks for any further help!

-Steve


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Re: http://www.thehawkseye.com/b+/b+.html [Re: shr00mtr1p]
    #4260090 - 06/05/05 03:59 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Read the PF teks :-)

The spores won't make more grow out of a cake, no.

The cake will grow mushrooms, you pick them, and then dunk the cakes in water overnight, then put them back in the fruiting chamber and they'll grow more mushrooms, with no need for spores.

The white mycelium is the plant. The mushrooms are just the "fruit", as in apples on a tree. Think of the mycelium as the tree and the shrooms as the apples. The mushrooms only exist to send out spores when they are in the wild to propogate the species.


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Re: http://www.thehawkseye.com/b+/b+.html [Re: myndreach]
    #4260102 - 06/05/05 04:08 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

sounds like more reading to me. man i spend a few hours a day reading here. there is so much info to be absorbed, just like a saprobe. it is such a great hobby and you have stumbled across a community of great people that will definitely help your shrooming.
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Re: http://www.thehawkseye.com/b+/b+.html [Re: myndreach]
    #4260125 - 06/05/05 04:16 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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Read the PF teks :-)

The spores won't make more grow out of a cake, no.

The cake will grow mushrooms, you pick them, and then dunk the cakes in water overnight, then put them back in the fruiting chamber and they'll grow more mushrooms, with no need for spores.

The white mycelium is the plant. The mushrooms are just the "fruit", as in apples on a tree. Think of the mycelium as the tree and the shrooms as the apples. The mushrooms only exist to send out spores when they are in the wild to propogate the species.




wow thats new to me also lol, its amazing what nature can do!


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Re: http://www.thehawkseye.com/b+/b+.html [Re: backupwards]
    #4260129 - 06/05/05 04:17 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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sounds like more reading to me. man i spend a few hours a day reading here. there is so much info to be absorbed, just like a saprobe. it is such a great hobby and you have stumbled across a community of great people that will definitely help your shrooming.
peace




ah men to that. i am a member as of yesterday and already feel totally welcome and normal inhere. i dont feel bad asking questions since there r no immature people who make u feel stupid.


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    #4260144 - 06/05/05 04:25 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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wow thats new to me also lol, its amazing what nature can do!




Yep...

The mycelium grows under the dirt, and when part of it hits the surface and sunlight, it triggers a release of hormones in the mycelium telling it that there is light. Therefore, it knows it has reached "above ground" where it can count on it's spores spreading, so it sends fruits that way (mushrooms). They grow up towards the light and the caps open up and spores drop and are carried away by the wind.

It's a beautiful process.

I would recommend following a plain, standard PF-tek for your first time. Grow a few cakes and see how the hole process works before you go into more advanced things.


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    #4260146 - 06/05/05 04:26 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

hahahaha they are here too. but far and few between. generally most are courtious and help as much as possible.
good luck with your endeavors
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    #4260243 - 06/05/05 04:57 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

This is a flush:


Thats time to harvest, fill in with more casing mix and mist down and put back into the fruiting chamber to wait for the second flush. You want all your pins on each flush to pop up at once so it comes up nice and even and solid.

Cakes are a little different, you dont worry about it comming even and pins will all come around the same time...but they may mature at slightly different times. But while the pins get bigger, no more pins are really produced, until after you harvest and the mycelium knows its time to make new mushrooms. Casings are definatly the goal to shoot for, and if you do enough reading you can skip over cakes right to them (I did). If you do enough you could go right to poo, which is what the above picture was grown on..best substrate for potency and such...but thats what would take dozens of hours for months for you to learn and perfect.


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    #4260357 - 06/05/05 05:28 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah...my friend's first grow was a growkit from Amsterdam, now she's doing her first grow from scratch. She's doing poo, but she's read a whole lot, asked around a lot, and been on these boards for almost a year now before doing her first grow.


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