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Life is a play.
    #4258580 - 06/05/05 04:11 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Life is a masquerade ball.

We all are wearing costumes and masks. These help us mark the roles we are playing at any particular time. While we keep in mind their purpose, role masks serves us well. When we confuse ourselves with our roles or forget that we are choosing to play a game, roles become oppressive - capable of turning even young men and women into cardboard stiffs. [See thread: Emotional Blocks to Creativity] In The Art of Loving, Erich Fromm describes the condition of the modern man -caught up in a game he has forgotten he chose to play. Fromm describes a "nowhere man" who has become so attached to his masks that he has forgotten to play - and to love. Fromm calls this "nowhere man" an automaton. Read his description below, and see if perhaps you have met this man.

Modern man is alienated from himself, from his fellow men, and from nature. He has been transformed into a commodity, experiences his life forces as investments which must bring him the maximum profit obtainable within existing market conditions. Human relations are essentially those of alienated automatons, each basing his security on staying close to the herd, and not being different in thought, feeling or action. While everybody tries to be as close as possible to the rest, everybody remains utterly alone, pervaded by a deep sense of insecurity, anxiety and guilt which always results when human separateness cannot be overcome... Automatons cannot love; they exchange their "personality packages" and hope for a fair bargain."


The postmodern man [or woman] is not an automaton but an alive and loving player in the game of life. He or she is a gamesman, not in the sense of being a shrewd manipulator, but in the sense of one who is game for life and ready to play. The automaton struggles for ends. He wants to have something that is fixed in time, for example, a title, a position, rewards of every kind. The gamesman plays an open-ended game. The gamesman wants to do something, and that changes. An automaton becomes habituated to a role. A gamesman never confuses himself with his role.

The gamesman knows that she can fall into the automaton habit, not only by concretizing into her role but also by taking the roles of others to seriously. Often we forget that the policeman or doctor, the university professor or boss, the secretary or waitress is so much more than the role each plays in our lives. Gamesmen relate to people first and foremost as human beings and only secondarily as their roles.
Gamesmen see, honor, and love the one behind the mask.






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Re: Life is a play. [Re: SkorpivoMusterion]
    #4258764 - 06/05/05 05:43 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

good words too bad that theres not that many post-modern people!


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Re: Life is a play. [Re: duster]
    #4258769 - 06/05/05 05:47 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

have our roles in life merely become our jobs? Our roles are the one thing that will never know, we are danceing in a masquerade ball of which were all wearing masks unknowingly or so I think I know


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Re: Life is a play. [Re: duster]
    #4259119 - 06/05/05 10:22 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

the really funny thing is, despite most people seeming to fit into that "automaton" category, they really aren't that far away from being gamesmen (or women =+) again. You can see this when you look past their masks...after all, humans are all human. Alot of people seem about ready to open up, they just don't know how - or are scared to. As soon as they see someone else doing so, it makes them feel better about doing it. They feel less "weak" or "idiotic" or "wierd"
it's an extension of that "talking to random strangers" thing. i can't pretend to be free of the "automaton" state, but i'm freer than i was, say, several years ago.


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Re: Life is a play. [Re: newjon]
    #4259263 - 06/05/05 11:14 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

nowadays i think about self-perception in terms of power. i think, the other person can perceive me however they want; i can perceive me however i want. both people have power. this helps me be assertive in the face of intimidation.


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Re: Life is a play. [Re: crunchytoast]
    #4259383 - 06/05/05 12:07 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Power is an awesome tool, just be careful not to develop any addictions to it or its usage. :wink:

Someone who is more actualized in a power center is going to be conscious of a lot more awareness than someone curled up on the couch, afraid to move, too obstructed by security center addictions, and they will be experiencing life to a greater, more open to the reality of the moment manner than them as well, but yet power as the highest level in one's hierarchy will leave one seperated and caught up in their own actions in a way that is harmful to themselves and others. The power center isn't even halfway up the ladder of consciousness. :wink: :grin:

Power is great, though. :grin: As long as we recognize it for what it is and do not get caught up in the actions and only identify with them, we will keep our usage of it in balance with ourselves, those around us, and our environment at large. Or something. :nut:

I will now exercise the power to say "Fuck your mom in the ass, you fucking bitch!" :evil:

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Re: Life is a play. [Re: fireworks_god]
    #4259471 - 06/05/05 12:30 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

i'm not big on hierarchies, teacher.
being assertive is different from being domineering.


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Re: Life is a play. [Re: crunchytoast]
    #4259844 - 06/05/05 02:31 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

crunchytoast said:
i'm not big on hierarchies, teacher.
being assertive is different from being domineering.




There are also different degrees and shades of assertiveness, the manners in which one asserts themself, and also one's motivations and influences for which one asserts... not to mention the infinite possibilites that are there to be asserted towards..... :wink:

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If I should die this very moment
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For I've never known completeness
Like being here
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Loving every breath of you

:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:


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Re: Life is a play. [Re: fireworks_god]
    #4259990 - 06/05/05 03:26 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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the manners in which one asserts onself



i would be lying if i said i always had the best manners

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be careful



even as we gaze at ourselves there is a mask


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Re: Life is a play. [Re: crunchytoast]
    #4263370 - 06/06/05 02:05 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

(To all shroomers):  :heart:

Just think how much more fun we could have if we did away with that "a"!

Life is play...so don't take it so seriously!

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