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experimenting with popcorn i have a few questions anyone plz
    #4258400 - 06/05/05 03:11 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

this is really my first time using a grain spawn.

first off after i clean the grain and let soak then put in the pressure cooker how much water do i put on the out side of the jar? (i am using quart jars that i am filling 2/3 full)

i don't put water on the inside of the jar right?

when i store the jars should i store them in a cool dark place shaking them till they colonize?

when i am ready to cast them i am going to make a casing of straw and compost(read below for the question on compost) at the base that i want to add the casing to then add plastic on top that I've drilled holes in till it colonizes, remove plastic and add a 50/50 casing on top and add humidifier.

i know the best stuff is worm dung but i really cant afford the stuff for the amount i need. can i use cow compost if i bake it and sterilize it? or should i use horse compost?

and what humidity level should i keep the tanks at for the popcorn does anyone know?

thanks for any help


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Re: experimenting with popcorn i have a few questions anyone plz [Re: epiphanieslost]
    #4258435 - 06/05/05 03:19 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Replace the popcorn with rye or wbs and things will go faster and easier for ya.  :thumbup:


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Re: experimenting with popcorn i have a few questions anyone plz [Re: Magash]
    #4258451 - 06/05/05 03:24 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

i have been looking every where for rye and where i live i can't find it i could only find popcorn every where
what is wbs?


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Re: experimenting with popcorn i have a few questions anyone plz [Re: epiphanieslost]
    #4258455 - 06/05/05 03:25 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/23619

Sounds like some reading is in order...

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Re: experimenting with popcorn i have a few questions anyone plz [Re: epiphanieslost]
    #4258457 - 06/05/05 03:26 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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this is really my first time using a grain spawn.

first off after i clean the grain and let soak then put in the pressure cooker how much water do i put on the out side of the jar? (i am using quart jars that i am filling 2/3 full) Soak your popcorn for 48-60 hours uncovered in a pot. When grains are ready to be drained, they can easily be bitten in half with your teeth. Drain well in a collander! At the minimum, an hour.

i don't put water on the inside of the jar right? No! Not with my instructions soak instructions.

when i store the jars should i store them in a cool dark place shaking them till they colonize? Yes! But only shake after the jars are 25% colonized. Then after the shake, let them finish up. Disperse the colonized grain well while shaking.

when i am ready to cast them i am going to make a casing of straw and compost(read below for the question on compost) at the base that i want to add the casing to then add plastic on top that I've drilled holes in till it colonizes, remove plastic and add a 50/50 casing on top and add humidifier.

i know the best stuff is worm dung but i really cant afford the stuff for the amount i need. can i use cow compost if i bake it and sterilize it? or should i use horse compost? Either one. Horse is better IMO. Use a pot of water to PASTURIZE the poo. 170 degrees max for an hour. Add a 1/2 of a cup of hydrated lime to the bath to up the ph for an easy and clean colonization.

and what humidity level should i keep the tanks at for the popcorn does anyone know? 70-75% is optimal for casings!

thanks for any help




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Re: experimenting with popcorn i have a few questions anyone plz [Re: Hotnuts]
    #4258461 - 06/05/05 03:28 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

My answers are in your quote in my last post. Sorry. I keep f'n up my replies with quotes included.


Edited by hotnutz (06/05/05 03:30 AM)


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Re: experimenting with popcorn i have a few questions anyone plz [Re: Hotnuts]
    #4258463 - 06/05/05 03:28 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

thank you so much thats just what i needed!!!


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Re: experimenting with popcorn i have a few questions anyone plz [Re: epiphanieslost]
    #4258464 - 06/05/05 03:29 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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first off after i clean the grain and let soak then put in the pressure cooker how much water do i put on the out side of the jar? (i am using quart jars that i am filling 2/3 full)




Just put enough water in to come up an inch or 2 on the sides

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i don't put water on the inside of the jar right?




You're using popcorn? You may want to simmer it for awhile. IME with popcorn it doesn't absorb very much water. In fact u should ditch corn altogether and go to wild birdseed or rye if possible.

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when i store the jars should i store them in a cool dark place shaking them till they colonize?




You may want to do some more reading...When colonizing you should let them incubate at about 84F in a dark environment. Dont shake more than 2 maybe 3 times, different growers like to do it at different times. For example, a FOAF likes to shake right after inoculation, then at 50-70%. After that shaking isnt really necessary.

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when i am ready to cast them i am going to make a casing of straw and compost(read below for the question on compost) at the base that i want to add the casing to then add plastic on top that I've drilled holes in till it colonizes, remove plastic and add a 50/50 casing on top and add humidifier.

i know the best stuff is worm dung but i really cant afford the stuff for the amount i need. can i use cow compost if i bake it and sterilize it? or should i use horse compost?




Actually, horse poop blows worm castings out of the water. Try to avoid cow poo but if its all u can get make sure u mix it with plenty of straw and/or verm. You want to pasturize the substrate at about 170F for about 3 hours... Read Here...then once its cooled use your grains to spawn.

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and what humidity level should i keep the tanks at for the popcorn does anyone know?




I assume you are doing casings, you'll want it at about 75%


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Re: experimenting with popcorn i have a few questions anyone plz [Re: LengthyFellow]
    #4258470 - 06/05/05 03:31 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

hey nutz u beat me to it, is that a little nicer?


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Re: experimenting with popcorn i have a few questions anyone plz [Re: epiphanieslost]
    #4258480 - 06/05/05 03:34 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

opps yeah wild bird seed yeah i know what that is and it didnt work very well for me...

that why i wanted to try to use popcorn....

thank you so very much hotnutz for your help


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Re: experimenting with popcorn i have a few questions anyone plz [Re: epiphanieslost]
    #4258493 - 06/05/05 03:38 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

i am letting the corn sit over night in water then simmering it for about an hour before pressure cooking it


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Re: experimenting with popcorn i have a few questions anyone plz [Re: epiphanieslost]
    #4258495 - 06/05/05 03:38 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

make sure your jars are in a WARM, dark place. Im sure hotnutz simply misread it :smile:


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Re: experimenting with popcorn i have a few questions anyone plz [Re: LengthyFellow]
    #4258506 - 06/05/05 03:43 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

i can get horse compost at a store here you think its better? i plan on using a top soil of vermiculite, peatmoss and lime on top of the straw, compost, spawn casting


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Re: experimenting with popcorn i have a few questions anyone plz [Re: epiphanieslost]
    #4258518 - 06/05/05 03:47 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

should i process the horse poo to or should i use it as is when i buy it from the store?

see the thing is i can go down to the local farm and pick up as much cow compost as i want for free, so i figgered hell i need a lot so free would be perfect seeing i've all ready spent alot of money seting up.

when you say warm what is a good temp to keep them at?


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Re: experimenting with popcorn i have a few questions anyone plz [Re: epiphanieslost]
    #4259815 - 06/05/05 02:21 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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should i process the horse poo to or should i use it as is when i buy it from the store?

see the thing is i can go down to the local farm and pick up as much cow compost as i want for free, so i figgered hell i need a lot so free would be perfect seeing i've all ready spent alot of money seting up.




Hmm...well usually you want to avoid store bought poo because they compost the shit out of it (no pun intended) and often add things. You may want to go check out the cow dung, and mix it 60% straw 40% dung.

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when you say warm what is a good temp to keep them at?




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LengthyFellow said:...When colonizing you should let them incubate at about 84F in a dark environment.




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Re: experimenting with popcorn i have a few questions anyone plz [Re: LengthyFellow]
    #4260997 - 06/05/05 09:02 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

ive inoced 25 jars of popcorn for myself and a friend and have had awsome results.. here is a good TEC for corn http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/25049 . basicly soak corn for 24 hrs, low boil for 1 hr, drain for atleast 30 min, spoon into jars, PC for 1 hr, then when room temp inoc put in dark warm place (80-85 deg F.) and ive had growth in a lil over 1 day using mycilum syringe.. i just got done picking my first flush and got a lil over 2 oz wet weight (eat them wet so dont know what it would of been dry) and i use the 3 1/2 qt jars. but i love popcorn and have had no problems with it so far


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