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Offlinethe6used9
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Dangerous
    #4252413 - 06/03/05 02:08 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

How dangerous is acid? My friend O.D.ed on it and had a really bad trip running home through the woods but they said it was from the Lithium he has to take. If you take regular doses is there much of a chance of dieing, or ending up in this hospital?

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InvisibleHeavyToilet
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Re: Dangerous [Re: the6used9]
    #4252428 - 06/03/05 02:12 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

You can't overdose on it. He just got freaked out.

I guess he was taking lithium because he has a bi-polar disorder?

Doing psychedelics while experiencing similar mental problems can lead to a bad experience.

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Re: Dangerous [Re: the6used9]
    #4252429 - 06/03/05 02:12 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

your friend did not od on acid.. guaranteed...  he probably just had a bad trip, completely different

if he has to take lithium for a mental condition he shouldnt have been taking lsd in the first place.......... :smirk:


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Re: Dangerous [Re: Infrared]
    #4252446 - 06/03/05 02:16 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Can't physically overdose on LSD, but you can certainly psychologically overdose =P

Probably just a bad reaction.

I don't know enough about LSD to tell you long-term effects or bad effects though.


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Re: Dangerous [Re: Infrared]
    #4252481 - 06/03/05 02:23 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

LSD and Lithium is well knows to casue blackouts and other un-predictable results, theres more about it on Erowid.org.

If you're not on any medication then there wont be any risk with regular use, LSD on it's own cant cause an OD. It's possible that you could trip so hard that you'd end up doing something stupid and end up in hospital.

In that case it's best to trip in a safe familiar place with people you know and trust until you are familiar with the effects of LSD and your reaction to it.

Edited by MattWhite (06/03/05 02:29 PM)

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Re: Dangerous [Re: MattWhite]
    #4252675 - 06/03/05 03:22 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Cant OD on LSD. If you took a huge amount you could litterally blow your mind out and never be the same, but wont die. Plus anyone with mental problems enough to take Lithium probably shouldnt take LSD. You should be safe though.

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Re: Dangerous [Re: RevMax]
    #4252886 - 06/03/05 04:23 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

litterally blow your mind out




You're saying we are in danger of our heads literally exploding?


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Re: Dangerous [Re: RevMax]
    #4252891 - 06/03/05 04:26 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

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RevMax said:
Cant OD on LSD. If you took a huge amount you could litterally blow your mind out and never be the same, but wont die. Plus anyone with mental problems enough to take Lithium probably shouldnt take LSD. You should be safe though.




You can OD on LSD. Enough of it will kill you. Not a typical OD though. I'm guessing your friend had a bad trip.


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Re: Dangerous [Re: ShroomOmatic]
    #4253378 - 06/03/05 06:37 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

ShroomOmatic said:
You can OD on LSD. Enough of it will kill you. Not a typical OD though. I'm guessing your friend had a bad trip.


as far as we know lsd cant cause death in humans, because its never happened before. iv heard of people eating insane amounts...like 1-2grams and survive.

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Re: Dangerous [Re: the6used9]
    #4253422 - 06/03/05 06:46 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

nobodies ever died from takeing too much cid... tho there are cases that ur brain chemistry gets so mixed up u end up in the psycheward for maybe a week to life depending on severity


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Re: Dangerous [Re: Archemetis]
    #4253507 - 06/03/05 07:02 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Archemetis said:
Quote:

ShroomOmatic said:
You can OD on LSD. Enough of it will kill you. Not a typical OD though. I'm guessing your friend had a bad trip.


as far as we know lsd cant cause death in humans, because its never happened before. iv heard of people eating insane amounts...like 1-2grams and survive.




I dunno if there has been any known cases of people eating exactly that much. A thumbprint isn't even that much.

According to Erowid the LD50 of LSD is 12,000 micrograms. That's 12 milligrams.

Although, I believe a thumbprint is more than this, so who knows.

Edited by HeavyToilet (06/03/05 07:05 PM)

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Re: Dangerous [Re: HeavyToilet]
    #4253551 - 06/03/05 07:13 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Ah, here we go:

"For those concerned about immediate medical hazards in ingesting LSD...Abram Hoffer has estimated, on the basis of animal studies, that the half-lethal human dose--meaning half would die--would be about 14,000 [ug]. But one person who took 40,000 ug survived. In the only case of death reportedly caused by overdose (Journal of the Kentucky Medical Association), the quantity of LSD in the blood indicated that 320,000 ug had been injected intravenously."

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_dose.shtml

Died from .32 grams.

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InvisibleTHE KRAT BARON
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Re: Dangerous [Re: HeavyToilet]
    #4253722 - 06/03/05 07:56 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

I'm wondering the purity of the LSD given to animals to determine that LD50..

There must have been a significant amounts of impurities in the product. Product that is more pure would probably have a higher LD50..

I'v always been under the impression there has never been an LSD OD. :confused:


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Re: Dangerous [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
    #4253774 - 06/03/05 08:07 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

If you had a bunch of acid that was 95% pure, then that would mean there would be 5% of impurities. If you take out the impurities the amount of actual pure LSD would be smaller than that amount with the impurities in it. Therefor the weight for the LD50 would be lower, not higher.

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Re: Dangerous [Re: HeavyToilet]
    #4254445 - 06/03/05 11:32 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

I think I remember Chinacat talking about people who had eaten a gram at a time. As far as I know there's been no real study on the human LD50 of humans.


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Re: Dangerous [Re: RevMax]
    #4254498 - 06/03/05 11:51 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

You could never be the same if you had a mental disorder, that's a possiblity. If you're a normal sane person, chances are you won't end up "blowing your mind out" or in a psych. ward from even a massively massive dose of LSD.

People have taken thousands of hits and came down completely fine, if a bit more spiritually changed forever. Chinacat even told a story about a guy who freaked out on a THUMBPRINT dose and yet he was fine afterwards, and is fine to this day he said.

LSD really is benign to the vast majority of people, and is physically benign to all normal people according to current knowledge.


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Re: Dangerous [Re: Ravus]
    #4254521 - 06/03/05 11:59 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Acid hits just aint acid hits anymore. Its mainly 5-MeO-AMT and DOB.

Too bad we all can needle point pure acid.

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Re: Dangerous [Re: Rudra]
    #4254811 - 06/04/05 01:30 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Rudra said:
Acid hits just aint acid hits anymore. Its mainly 5-MeO-AMT and DOB.

Too bad we all can needle point pure acid.




I beg to differ.....


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Re: Dangerous [Re: Rudra]
    #4255250 - 06/04/05 08:16 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

False.


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Re: Dangerous [Re: Rudra]
    #4255389 - 06/04/05 09:34 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

I wish it was DOB.

I'd like to get my hands on some of that stuff.

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