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 mathflower
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 Re: Goodbye shroomery... (why i quit)  [Re: delta9]
#4265362 - 06/06/05 08:04 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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I dont browse as much i should.
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mathflower
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Re: Goodbye shroomery... (why i quit) [Re: Redstorm]
#4265365 - 06/06/05 08:05 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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 delta9
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Re: Goodbye shroomery... (why i quit) [Re: mathflower]
#4265388 - 06/06/05 08:09 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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It happens.
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Re: Goodbye shroomery... (why i quit) [Re: mathflower]
#4265487 - 06/06/05 08:35 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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That was offensive? 
I must be extremely desensitized, because to me it seems we have smileys more offensive than his comment. I wouldn't necessarily say he was wrong either.
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mathflower
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 Re: Goodbye shroomery... (why i quit) [Re: Ravus]
#4265509 - 06/06/05 08:42 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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Maybe I'm partial to her. Since my bias is obviously effecting my decisions in this thread I better stop now before I get <insert funny irc comment here>.
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Re: Goodbye shroomery... (why i quit) [Re: mathflower]
#4265534 - 06/06/05 08:50 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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Liz
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Re: Goodbye shroomery... (why i quit) [Re: Ravus]
#4266792 - 06/07/05 06:01 AM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
Ravus said:
That was offensive?
I must be extremely desensitized, because to me it seems we have smileys more offensive than his comment. I wouldn't necessarily say he was wrong either.
you dont know me...and my "pussy" has nothing to do with suffer's decision to step down...since I'm still here, postwhoring it up...what sense would that make? Wouldn;t that comment make more sense if he had left because I left? I didn't repond to doobs original thread, because I'm quite used to him, and others, making underhanded comments about our relationship. I'm just done with the drama. We love eachother, and if people have a problem with that, or want to call it being blinded by pussy, then that's just fine. We both know that's not the case, and Mathflower, thanks for seeing that too. 
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Re: Goodbye shroomery... (why i quit) [Re: Liz]
#4267146 - 06/07/05 09:17 AM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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na-na-na-na-na-na train...
no I'm not joining the argument, just my 2 cents on the IRC/rasicsm issue.
I don't like rasicm and don't think it has a place in the main channel on IRC; this place may have spawned a community but don't forget that there will be people that are interested in mushrooms alone that come here and that's a horrible impression to make (and it's also probably why this place has little respect when it comes to the online 18+ drug community).
I only join the #shroomery channel when I am at home; vary rarely at work.
Thanks for your work suffer.
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Re: Goodbye shroomery... (why i quit) [Re: blink]
#4267873 - 06/07/05 01:16 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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but don't forget that there will be people that are interested in mushrooms alone that come here and that's a horrible impression to make
Upholding to highest degree a person's ability to practice freedom of speech is a horrible impression to make?
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Liz
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Re: Goodbye shroomery... (why i quit) [Re: newuser1492]
#4267965 - 06/07/05 01:32 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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There is a definite difference between freedom of speech, and people that just act racist for the sake of upsetting people. I believe 100% in freedom of speech, but #shroomery is a public chat room, and everyone needs to be mindful of the fact that others can get offended. There are plenty of other rooms, other than the main one, where people can say whatever the hell they want to say. I don't think that's censoring anyone, I think that's more along the lines of common courtesy.
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Re: Goodbye shroomery... (why i quit) [Re: Liz]
#4268055 - 06/07/05 01:44 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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I don't go in there because of the rules so I can't speak to the general sentiment of users in that room.
I don't think that's censoring anyone, I think that's more along the lines of common courtesy.
What's courteous to you isn't to another. Where does it end? That is, like I said before, why I don't enter that room.
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Redstorm
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Re: Goodbye shroomery... (why i quit) [Re: Liz]
#4268133 - 06/07/05 01:54 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
ifallapart said:
I believe 100% in freedom of speech
If you ever censor anything, you're not 100% for freedom of speech
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Liz
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Re: Goodbye shroomery... (why i quit) [Re: Redstorm]
#4268245 - 06/07/05 02:12 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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The Shroomery claims to be run like a business. How many businesses would hire an employee, or tolerate a customer running around yelling nigger at the top of their lungs? They'd get fired, or tossed out immediately. I'm not suggesting censoring people, but all of us are bright enough to know how to type /join #otd and say whatever you want to say in there.
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Edited by ifallapart (06/07/05 02:12 PM)
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Re: Goodbye shroomery... (why i quit) [Re: Liz]
#4268256 - 06/07/05 02:14 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm not disagreeing with your decision. I was just making a clarification. Non-offensive language should be used in the lobby, but in OTD and other rooms, it should be allowed.
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automan
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Re: Goodbye shroomery... (why i quit) [Re: Liz]
#4268277 - 06/07/05 02:16 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
ifallapart said:
The Shroomery claims to be run like a business. How many businesses would hire an employee, or tolerate a customer running around yelling nigger at the top of their lungs?
find the people on irc that are slinging racial slurs, make a list, and i'll personally see to it that the shroomery stops paying them.
/me pokes ifall with a stick 
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Liz
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Re: Goodbye shroomery... (why i quit) [Re: automan]
#4268297 - 06/07/05 02:19 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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I didn't say that the people who get paid are the same ones who are racist. I'm saying, in general, a lot of people in the main channel are.
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Re: Goodbye shroomery... (why i quit) [Re: Liz]
#4268349 - 06/07/05 02:29 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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i'm just poking at ya, ifall. to me, this has moved past the point of admin watching whats going on, so i figured i'd try to inject some fun.
find me on irc, we'll play some pool 
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Re: Goodbye shroomery... (why i quit) [Re: automan]
#4270793 - 06/08/05 05:33 AM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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eh this is just getting silly, and it's not about Suffer at all anymore after the first 5 posts, its all about ifallapart.
Either way, none of this has to do with 'website announcements' anymore, so somebody lock this down?
Btw Great job to those who managed to distract the topic totally away from Suffer and onto themself. 
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Re: Goodbye shroomery... (why i quit) [Re: Planet PHL]
#4270812 - 06/08/05 05:54 AM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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how is this thread totally about me? because I stated my opinions in the debate about what the meaning of free speech is?
That's bullshit.
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Re: Goodbye shroomery... (why i quit) [Re: Liz]
#4270929 - 06/08/05 07:49 AM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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As many of you are demonstrating, censorship and freedom of speech are difficult topics. On one hand, this sites mission is to "help stop the spread of dangerous misinformation about magic mushrooms so people can make intelligent and informed decisions about what they put in their bodies." The mission has nothing to do with free speech and the Shroomery has never made a claim that the members can say anything that they want. On the other hand, this site has tried to maintain an open an free attitude where our members can freely express their ideas and opinions. There is a delicate balance between keeping a censor free site and maintaining out mission of educating the public about mushrooms.
Unfortunately, there will always be bad apples that refuse to be responsible with their actions (or words) and instead will take advantage of the open nature of this site to cause trouble. These people scream that it is their right to post pictures of a woman eating shit out of some dudes ass, or to call people racist names, or any other sort of questionable behaviour. They know what they are doing, they know we have asked them not to do this, and they continue doing it for no other reason than to cause drama at the expense of the site itself. I have no sympathy for these folks when they get banned and come back crying about how unfair life is because we censored them.
With everything I just said in mind, the admin and mods have a very difficult time maintaining a fair balance between being open and protecting ourselves. Unfortunately, what Suffer wanted (as I understand it) is a hardline drawn in the rulebook with respect to censorship and racism. Unless the site as a whole took a "we only discuss mushrooms and nothing else" standpoint, the
"zero tolerance" rule that Suffer wanted simply would not work. He decided that he didn't want to be a part of a site that allowed racist comments, which I fully understand and appreciate, and so he left.
For those of you that think the Shroomery supports racism, think again. We try to support freedom of speech to express your opinions and ideas. However, if somebody starts to verbally attack another member because of race, religion, or anything else, then the moderators and admin will do what we can to put an end to it if we get complaints. I am not going to ban somebody from the site simply because they are racist anymore than I am going to ban somebody from the site because they smoke cigarettes. As I said, we try to maintain a balance. We aren't perfect and don't always get it right, but I think for the most part we do a pretty good job.
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