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Universe as the centre of the Universe
    #4245618 - 06/01/05 09:19 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

They thought, the entire universe, was circling around the earth.
Then they thought, the entire universe was circling around the sun.
Then they discovered other galaxies and they either moving away, or moving toward us, seem very independent of any centre.

They are now us, and we think independent of any given sanctions.

Assuming there is a centre of the universe, one would know that it would have to be somewhere in the universe. We could then assume, that the centre is anywhere in the universe.

A human, as any moving entity, could in principle, be anywhere in the universe.
So again assuming, we are the centre of the universe.
The universe is the centre of the universe.

Now, a thing cannot be its own centre as it would not be anything around it; but a fractal, would. So is the universe a fractal, and ?how far down the rabbit hole? do you dare go with this? :P 

?Zoom in on zooming out, and you will see.?
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Re: Universe as the centre of the Universe [Re: Gomp]
    #4245704 - 06/01/05 09:36 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Universal fractal life in a universal fractal seed, crystalized....


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Re: Universe as the centre of the Universe [Re: eMotionALLmotion]
    #4245726 - 06/01/05 09:44 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

ever squeezed your eyeballs and seen the fractal pattern?


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Re: Universe as the centre of the Universe [Re: Gomp]
    #4245737 - 06/01/05 09:50 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I have stood up fast and seen the snowy tunnel close in on me.... 
If I push a spot on the side of my eyeball, I see a spot of light.... 

OK, I just shut my eyes really tight, the snow moves....!  :zoom:
(maybe I can figure ut how to use this duing winter time....?)  :lol:

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Re: Universe as the centre of the Universe [Re: eMotionALLmotion]
    #4245770 - 06/01/05 10:05 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

strange how our eyes retain light..even in pitch black darkness..my eyes see light, if they're closed tight enough.???

what is the light?


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Re: Universe as the centre of the Universe [Re: eMotionALLmotion]
    #4245790 - 06/01/05 10:10 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

i don't understand the fractal center/not-center thing, am curious

but since historically we've always thought we were the center
and always been wrong
to say this universe is THE universe
may be the same vanity


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Re: Universe as the centre of the Universe [Re: Gomp]
    #4245804 - 06/01/05 10:14 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)



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Re: Universe as the centre of the Universe [Re: crunchytoast]
    #4245824 - 06/01/05 10:22 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

""but since historically we've always thought we were the center
and always been wrong""

And i will tell you why, not caring who believe it or not, we started with the earth as being the center..

the church burned the one opposed to that view..

until Newton (?) Finlay broke away from the static model of our universe.. and convinced even the church..

now then they started to look outwards, as explained in the initial post, ...

now looking "inwards" ... we found yourself, and as we can be anywhere in the universe, we could be its center? and if the universe is a fractal




we are the universe, (in one of its scales) but also the whole as the same.. OK ill drop it.. damn i dig this.. :P ha ha please 'get me wrong'!


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Re: Universe as the centre of the Universe [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #4245920 - 06/01/05 10:49 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I prefer GrafZViZion & TieraZon....    :grin:

GrafZViZion:





TieraZon:





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Re: Universe as the centre of the Universe [Re: eMotionALLmotion]
    #4245957 - 06/01/05 10:59 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

are those fractals?  :confused:


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Re: Universe as the centre of the Universe [Re: Gomp]
    #4246025 - 06/01/05 11:20 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

What isn't.....?    :grin:


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Re: Universe as the centre of the Universe [Re: eMotionALLmotion]
    #4246072 - 06/01/05 11:36 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

hahaha, Good Night Friends!

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Re: Universe as the centre of the Universe [Re: Gomp]
    #4246698 - 06/02/05 02:58 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

"We could then assume, that the centre is anywhere in the universe."

If this assumption is correct, then there is nothing that is not the center of the universe. With no "non-center" to compare "center" to, we are left with a meaningless statement.

Same with "everything" and "nothing." Have you ever seen "nothing"? Is there such a thing as "nothing"? Could you identify "nothing" if you saw it? If not, then there isn't anything with which to compare the word "everything," and both terms are void of any real meaning.


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Re: Universe as the centre of the Universe [Re: primal]
    #4247136 - 06/02/05 08:31 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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primal said:
"We could then assume, that the centre is anywhere in the universe."

If this assumption is correct, then there is nothing that is not the center of the universe. With no "non-center" to compare "center" to, we are left with a meaningless statement.




ever heard about fractals?
it would compare to itself.. :P

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=fractal

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Same with "everything" and "nothing." Have you ever seen "nothing"? Is there such a thing as "nothing"? Could you identify "nothing" if you saw it? If not, then there isn't anything with which to compare the word "everything," and both terms are void of any real meaning.





You can not see nothing, unless you are not seeing..


"Is there such a thing as "nothing""

listen to it.. "Is there such a thing" as "not a thing"..
and off-course there is not.. nothing is not a thing..


you can not see nothing, if you see, you are looking at something..


so why compare then?

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Re: Universe as the centre of the Universe [Re: Gomp]
    #4247303 - 06/02/05 10:41 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

If you split a hologram into 4 pieces you will get 4 whole pieces rather then 4 quarters of the whole. If the universe is a hologram, then we each contain the whole of the universe within us.

I love looking at all the fractals in nature. They become more obvious while im tripping and able to pick up on more patterns. Its incredible


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Re: Universe as the centre of the Universe [Re: J4S0N]
    #4247613 - 06/02/05 01:05 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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