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Question on WBS tek....new to this experience need plz
    #4245183 - 06/01/05 07:23 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Hey guys! I've done some good grows, from the PF tek and I think I want to move on to WBS, my girl-friend likes birds and she bought some WBS, and I was like, hey! I should try that! lol. So here are my questions:

The tek I followed is:  6T WBS Tek (Wild Bird Seed) Bulk Spawn Preparation Method

1) Do you get more potent mushies compared to the PF-Tek?

2) Can you steam sterlize than PC? I have a veggy steamer, maybe if I was to just steam them for about 100-110minutes? (90min recommended on the tek for PC'in).

3) Are the filters really nessessary for the jars? It says in the tek: "Load pint or quart jars ? full, apply internal filter disk, material, polyfil or whatever method you use allow gas exchange through a ? or 3/8 inch hole in the lid. Screw lid on tight & back it off ? turn. Place a double layer of paper coffee filters over the lid & jar top, held down by a thick rubber band. Place the jars in the PC."

4) Is it alright if I use 1/2 pint jars?

Thanks for the help shroomery!

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Re: Question on WBS tek....new to this experience need plz [Re: Cray]
    #4245231 - 06/01/05 07:35 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

you need a filter of some sort.

i assume you are going to case the WBS as you cant really do cakes with it.. you will definately get a bigger flush


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Re: Question on WBS tek....new to this experience need plz [Re: Cray] * 1
    #4245233 - 06/01/05 07:35 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

you can steam sterolize, you need filter i just use the lid with polyfill im pretty sure 1/2 pints jars are fine and im not sure about the potentcy but ive heard that its better then the pf tek


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Re: Question on WBS tek....new to this experience need plz [Re: Cray]
    #4245237 - 06/01/05 07:36 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

1.) the potency of the mushroom varies enormously.
both depending on used substrates, such as brown rice flour in the pf or grains.
you can get enormously potent pf cubes and shitty grain cubes, as well as vice versa.

2.) grains, especcialy rye, can HARDLY if not at all be "sterilized" by steaming.
you will need a pressure cooker in order to guarantee sterilization.

3.) yes, filters are necessary if your incubation environment is contam polluted.
as basically every room anywhere is.
still i got nice results using no filter but just three layers of tinfoil (one got poked)

4.) sure
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Re: Question on WBS tek....new to this experience need plz [Re: ohmatic]
    #4245243 - 06/01/05 07:37 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

btw, is this WBS ok:




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Re: Question on WBS tek....new to this experience need plz [Re: ohmatic]
    #4245272 - 06/01/05 07:42 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

ohmatic said:
2.) grains, especcialy rye, can HARDLY if not at all be "sterilized" by steaming.
you will need a pressure cooker in order to guarantee sterilization.
peace ohm :mushroom2:




Well, should I be ok if I sterlize by steam, just for a longer time?

And Mych, yes all I do is casings.

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Re: Question on WBS tek....new to this experience need plz [Re: Cray]
    #4245280 - 06/01/05 07:43 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

you really dont want BIRD COTE in there dude ..
get some without it id suggest strongly ...

anyway, i doubt steaming it would be sufficiant, you can steam PASTEURIZE
but not sterilize ..
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Re: Question on WBS tek....new to this experience need plz [Re: ohmatic]
    #4245291 - 06/01/05 07:47 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I thought so... about the bird cote, whats steam pasteurize?


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Re: Question on WBS tek....new to this experience need plz [Re: Cray]
    #4245343 - 06/01/05 08:03 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

In another life, I was 6T. agar=6T

I would not suggest trying wbs or any grain, without a PC.

Best bet for bulk (w/o a PC)is make a bunch of PF cakes - for spawn.

Find free aged h/poo, pasturize it & use cakes as spawn.


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Re: Question on WBS tek....new to this experience need plz [Re: Cray]
    #4245387 - 06/01/05 08:14 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

we were experimenting with this back in '03 grain without pressure cooker

believe it or not, i had about 80% success using micro wave and steamer and 6Ts WBS tek.
popcorn & cracked corn also worked vary well too. :smile:
i even managed to pull off my first pan.cyan grow without a PC.

so don't let anyone tell you you can't.
keep experimenting :thumbup:

yes, it is  really necessary to use a polyfil or tyvek filter.

i guess you could use 1/2 pint jars, but i think it would be kind of a nuisance.


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Re: Question on WBS tek....new to this experience need plz [Re: deanofmean]
    #4245418 - 06/01/05 08:23 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

the reason u need a pressure cooker for sterilization is because it builds up pressure, under a higher pressure a substance has a higher boiling point and lower freezing point, thus water under 15 psi (or if u add the atmospheric pressure to it it would be 30 psi total) will boil at about 250 degrees farenheit rather than just 212 degrees. big difference there. so yes a pressure cooker is necessary


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