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If you ate nothing but vegetable soup everyday, what would happen?
    #4245159 - 06/01/05 05:15 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

I have a character who is forced to eat vegetable broth every day. That's the only thing he is given to eat and he's been eating it for about 4 years now.

What would happen to the body if you did this? What sort of problems would you run into? Would your teeth and hair fall out or what?

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Re: If you ate nothing but vegetable soup everyday, what would happen? [Re: MOTH]
    #4245171 - 06/01/05 05:19 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

If he's been doin it for 4 years now with no problems then I doubt anything would happen in the future.

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Re: If you ate nothing but vegetable soup everyday, what would happen? [Re: DNKYD]
    #4245176 - 06/01/05 05:20 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

No, what I mean is that I'm trying to decide if he WOULD have problems from eating only vegetable soup everyday for four years...

Because I want to be realistic with this as a writer.

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Re: If you ate nothing but vegetable soup everyday, what would happen? [Re: MOTH]
    #4245181 - 06/01/05 05:22 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Personally, I'd go crazy from meat withdrawals.


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Re: If you ate nothing but vegetable soup everyday, what would happen? [Re: Silversoul]
    #4245204 - 06/01/05 05:27 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

I would miss it too...this particular character is not allowed to partake of the flesh of beasts. He is only given the soup.

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Re: If you ate nothing but vegetable soup everyday, what would happen? [Re: MOTH]
    #4245207 - 06/01/05 05:27 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

4 years is a long time... teeth would probably rot (but no scurvy), he'd have a super clean GI tract (and as such would shit liquid)..... I guess it depends on what vegetables.... if he's eating solids at least he would be getting *some* fibre; or is it just the broth?


I'd say rot-toothed, liquid shiter


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Re: If you ate nothing but vegetable soup everyday, what would happen? [Re: blink]
    #4245214 - 06/01/05 05:31 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

I was thinking maybe they would give him raw fruit and stuff, and possibly nuts. 

Can't have the Seraph of Eerynil getting all nasty-mouthed...

But they would let him live with the shits.  :smirk:

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Re: If you ate nothing but vegetable soup everyday, what would happen? [Re: MOTH]
    #4245230 - 06/01/05 05:34 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

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I was thinking maybe they would give him raw fruit and stuff, and possibly nuts.




He might get away with it and still be somewhat normal functioning...
protein would be his first problem

If you allow him to eat grains (flax) as well then he should be able to adapt to it.


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Re: If you ate nothing but vegetable soup everyday, what would happen? [Re: blink]
    #4245236 - 06/01/05 05:35 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

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EllemyshShade said:
I was thinking maybe they would give him raw fruit and stuff, and possibly nuts.




He might get away with it and still be somewhat normal functioning...
protein would be his first problem

If you allow him to eat grains (flax) as well then he should be able to adapt to it.




Cool, thanks for the feedback.  :thumbup:

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Re: If you ate nothing but vegetable soup everyday, what would happen? [Re: MOTH]
    #4245240 - 06/01/05 05:37 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

He'd be getting a lot less fats and protein (unless there's soy in the soup) than a person on a normal diet. He'd also be suffering from vitamin B deficiency.


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    #4245259 - 06/01/05 05:40 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: If you ate nothing but vegetable soup everyday, what would happen? [Re: blink]
    #4245266 - 06/01/05 05:40 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

where's shroomism when you need him?


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Re: If you ate nothing but vegetable soup everyday, what would happen? [Re: blink]
    #4245276 - 06/01/05 05:43 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

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can he eat people?




Can he eat people? Hmm...I'd say no, but I might want to consider the idea further.

But probably no. The Tharkosens eat people though.

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Re: If you ate nothing but vegetable soup everyday, what would happen? [Re: MOTH]
    #4245315 - 06/01/05 05:55 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

I would get pretty sick of eating only vegetable soup after about a week probably. I couldnt do it.


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Re: If you ate nothing but vegetable soup everyday, what would happen? [Re: MOTH]
    #4245319 - 06/01/05 05:55 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

you would be a vegetarian?


haha depends whats in the soup i guess

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Re: If you ate nothing but vegetable soup everyday, what would happen? [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
    #4245327 - 06/01/05 05:58 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

If you made it a really good thick soup with soy texture, and served some kind of special heavy bread made with various highly nutritious grains (flax fo shizzle), he'd be a healthy guy..


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Re: If you ate nothing but vegetable soup everyday, what would happen? [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
    #4245338 - 06/01/05 06:01 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

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I would get pretty sick of eating only vegetable soup after about a week probably. I couldnt do it.




Yah, he doesn't really have a choice in the matter and when he leaves and learns that there is other food out there I'm sure he'll feel pretty bitter that they made him eat soup all the time.

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Re: If you ate nothing but vegetable soup everyday, what would happen? [Re: MOTH]
    #4245473 - 06/01/05 06:39 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

well quite a few vegetables has vitamin c so I couldn't see him getting scurvy.. I don't know what he would suffer from.. maybe lack of omega 3 fatty acids.. lol.. but then again 99% of americans already do. I don't know.. he'd probably be relatively healthy..

It would be better if he was forced to eat nothing but twinkies, or steak. Then he could have a sudden stroke.. and all kinds of fun stuff.


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Re: If you ate nothing but vegetable soup everyday, what would happen? [Re: Shroomism]
    #4245501 - 06/01/05 06:46 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

oh vegetable broth only? well probably the first thing that would happen is he would get constipated because his colon would atrophy from lack of bulk fiber. And so on.


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Re: If you ate nothing but vegetable soup everyday, what would happen? [Re: Shroomism]
    #4245514 - 06/01/05 06:48 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Well, he can't be too sickly or at the brink of death otherwise there is no story.  :wink:

I think they might give him access to raw fruit/vegees.

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Re: If you ate nothing but vegetable soup everyday, what would happen? [Re: MOTH]
    #4245519 - 06/01/05 06:49 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Then he would be healthier than most people :thumbup:


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Re: If you ate nothing but vegetable soup everyday, what would happen? [Re: Shroomism]
    #4245540 - 06/01/05 06:53 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

No he wouldn't be healthy, he would atrophy away because protein and fats are needed for such a wide variety of bodily functions. You can live with them your entire life without carbohydrates, not so in the reverse.


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Re: If you ate nothing but vegetable soup everyday, what would happen? [Re: Shroomism]
    #4245550 - 06/01/05 06:56 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

I doubt he would get all of the essential amino acids required for life so he would have most likely died a while ago. If he wasnt given nuts, beans, or rice i would bet that he would be dead.

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Re: If you ate nothing but vegetable soup everyday, what would happen? [Re: looner2]
    #4245552 - 06/01/05 06:57 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Ok.. I agree we need protein and fats, but I didn't understand your last sentence. But now that I think about it your right.. need grains and nuts.


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Re: If you ate nothing but vegetable soup everyday, what would happen? [Re: looner2]
    #4245568 - 06/01/05 07:04 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

I'm reading about Multiple System Atrophy right now and it doesn't say anything about being caused by poor nutrition.  It says the cause is unknown. 

But I did find  this page that lists all sorts of nutrients we need to survive and what happens if we don't get them.  There's an entire grisly list.  :thumbup:

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Re: If you ate nothing but vegetable soup everyday, what would happen? [Re: MOTH]
    #4245606 - 06/01/05 07:14 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

If his diet was lacking in any of the essential amino acids his body wouldn't be able to function properly. Its as simple as that. Many cellular processes would become impossible and he would die. Vegetarians are able to avoid this by eating combinations of beans and grains, which alone are incomplete nutritionally, but together hold all of the amino acids which are required for life. A vegetable soup would almost surely lack at least one essential amino acid so if that was strictly his diet he would not survive.

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Re: If you ate nothing but vegetable soup everyday, what would happen? [Re: Twister]
    #4245622 - 06/01/05 07:20 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

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If his diet was lacking in any of the essential amino acids his body wouldn't be able to function properly. Its as simple as that. Many cellular processes would become impossible and he would die. Vegetarians are able to avoid this by eating combinations of beans and grains, which alone are incomplete nutritionally, but together hold all of the amino acids which are required for life. A vegetable soup would almost surely lack at least one essential amino acid so if that was strictly his diet he would not survive.




Yeah, I'm thinking at this point he'll just be sipping soup along with the raw food thing and some beans and maybe bread.

Either way, it's a shitty way to eat every single meal.

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Re: If you ate nothing but vegetable soup everyday, what would happen? [Re: Shroomism]
    #4245641 - 06/01/05 07:23 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

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Ok.. I agree we need protein and fats, but I didn't understand your last sentence. But now that I think about it your right.. need grains and nuts.




You can live without carbohydrates as long as you are getting enough energy from fat and protein. You can't live without protein or fat.


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Re: If you ate nothing but vegetable soup everyday, what would happen? [Re: MOTH]
    #4245666 - 06/01/05 07:27 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

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Either way, it's a shitty way to eat every single meal.




Try telling that to vegetarians. Goddamned gluttons for punishment. :grin:

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Re: If you ate nothing but vegetable soup everyday, what would happen? [Re: MOTH]
    #4245703 - 06/01/05 07:36 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

He would look like this


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Re: If you ate nothing but vegetable soup everyday, what would happen? [Re: Twister]
    #4245816 - 06/01/05 08:19 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

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Either way, it's a shitty way to eat every single meal.




Try telling that to vegetarians. Goddamned gluttons for punishment. :grin:




Well, I didn't mean it like that. It's just that his food has no variety.  He's eaten the exact same meal every day for 4 years and it's pretty bland.

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Re: If you ate nothing but vegetable soup everyday, what would happen? [Re: MOTH]
    #4246770 - 06/02/05 01:35 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Megaloblastic anaemia?


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Re: If you ate nothing but vegetable soup everyday, what would happen? [Re: niCCa]
    #4246861 - 06/02/05 02:25 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

You could always say beans are a component of the soup? Vegetable broth w/ beans - sounds horrible! Then give him some bread and maybe a fruit jam? I guess jam probably isn't healthy enough.... Just trying to throw out some ideas so his situation sounds as horrible as possible. Maybe they just give him the fruits that aren't good enough to sell? I don't really know what the story is so I don't know how that would fit.


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Re: If you ate nothing but vegetable soup everyday, what would happen? [Re: Wysefool]
    #4246931 - 06/02/05 03:27 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

He would definitely loose lots of weight, go into Ketosis and that could be quite dangerous with broth alone. He would probably lose a lot of hair too and possibly some teeth. He would be weak all the time. He'd probably wanna murder someone for torturing him so badly, due to his brain being deprived and all the numerous chemical imbalances, he could become psychotic.

If you gave him raw veggies and nuts, he'd be perfectly healthy. That would actually be an ideal, wholesome, well balanced diet.

Raw veggies alone could pose a problem. Lots of deficiencies may develop. But this would be far better than the broth alone. He could definitely survive and live fairly normal on this diet but he would be thin and deficient in many various nutrients.

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Re: If you ate nothing but vegetable soup everyday, what would happen? [Re: MOTH]
    #4246940 - 06/02/05 03:37 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

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If you ate nothing but vegetable soup everyday, what would happen? 





he might become a vegetable?

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Re: If you ate nothing but vegetable soup everyday, what would happen? [Re: Wysefool]
    #4246951 - 06/02/05 03:45 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

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You could always say beans are a component of the soup? Vegetable broth w/ beans - sounds horrible! Then give him some bread and maybe a fruit jam? I guess jam probably isn't healthy enough.... Just trying to throw out some ideas so his situation sounds as horrible as possible.




hehe, thank you, that's what I'm trying to do. Make his life as miserable as possible without killing him and also still allow him to look somewhat presentable for his adoring public.

He is physically a 14 year old hermaphrodite, but he's only been alive for four years...long story, heh.

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Re: If you ate nothing but vegetable soup everyday, what would happen? [Re: MOTH]
    #4246960 - 06/02/05 03:49 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

im more worried about what is going to happen if you eat nothing but food from a vending machine everyday... will i go into stasis from all the preservatives?

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Re: If you ate nothing but vegetable soup everyday, what would happen? [Re: bixo]
    #4247016 - 06/02/05 04:47 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

what's the plot of this story? now i'm quite interested to read it!


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Re: If you ate nothing but vegetable soup everyday, what would happen? [Re: Krishna]
    #4247071 - 06/02/05 05:43 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks Krishna, it is a very long story...I am estimating I might have the entire thing written in 6 books.  I'm only about a quarter-way through the first book because I keep re-editing to get it right. My goal is to have the first book done in a year. To give you an idea what it is like...I'm trying to make the psychedelic experience into a story.  Like, if the psychedelic experience was an actual, living story, how would it be told? 

I'm re-editing the opening chapter (again, heh) and I'll post it in the Arts and Literature forum when it is ready for public consumption.  :smile:

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Re: If you ate nothing but vegetable soup everyday, what would happen? [Re: MOTH]
    #4247099 - 06/02/05 05:57 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

i'll be eagerly awaiting it!


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Re: If you ate nothing but vegetable soup everyday, what would happen? [Re: MOTH]
    #4247192 - 06/02/05 07:31 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

I'm not with it.. How does eating veggie soup for four years tie in with psychedelic experiences?

BTW my contrib... He'd definately have the squits..


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Re: If you ate nothing but vegetable soup everyday, what would happen? [Re: MOTH]
    #4247207 - 06/02/05 07:46 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

He can survive if he's special.  :smirk:


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Re: If you ate nothing but vegetable soup everyday, what would happen? [Re: Hambo]
    #4247526 - 06/02/05 10:28 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

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I'm not with it.. How does eating veggie soup for four years tie in with psychedelic experiences?




Perhaps it may be like Plato's cave story... after years of being fed the same shit he/she goes into the real world and discovers that theres alot more to life and many new sensations to experience (like the psychedelic experience is compared to normal life).


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Re: If you ate nothing but vegetable soup everyday, what would happen? [Re: Sreba]
    #4247578 - 06/02/05 10:51 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

well it depends how much soup per day, if it was like 10 gallons then surely that'd be enough to keep them alive but if it was like just 1 spoonful a day then i dunno.


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Re: If you ate nothing but vegetable soup everyday, what would happen? [Re: Sreba]
    #4247638 - 06/02/05 11:14 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

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I'm not with it.. How does eating veggie soup for four years tie in with psychedelic experiences?




Perhaps it may be like Plato's cave story... after years of being fed the same shit he/she goes into the real world and discovers that theres alot more to life and many new sensations to experience (like the psychedelic experience is compared to normal life).




Exactly. I am establishing a strong "before" story before I let the characters journey.

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