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bhopkinz said:
but once you've been to the point where you're smoking all day and you love it that much there is no turning point. it will stay in your mind as one of the ultimate pleasures of life. basically, even if you manage not to smoke...it will still be on your mind. your life will still revolve around it, because it will be on your mind.

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the anxiety you epxerience comes from yourself

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Well, where else would it come from? 

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and you should think about changing yourself before you started using "medicine" like weed.

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if there was any kind of medicine shrooms would be it, because you take them for introspection and such.

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weed is just something that feels very nice and gives you the impression of feeling something very much deeper than u actually are.

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1.those who LOVE the weed. we smoke it whenever we can, and make stupid claims to ourself that its helping us or that its a "medicine" like you claim. this is usually just a cover for deeper underlying problems, and eventually our friendships become mostly with pot smokers in which everything evovles around weed.

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please, stop kidding yourself. look at the facts.

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most big potheads i kno are either depressed, or have sum other mental ilnesses.

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Really?  Many sober people I know have similar.  Think it's some sort of huge coincidence?  Like...we're all human??!! 

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weed is a barrier to ur progress, not something that will help it.

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the sooner you realise this the sooner you'll move on. get the love of a good girl and you'll see how pathetic, shallow and an easy way out weed is.

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  I'm a woman and I'm already married, thanks. 

And since you've been so kind to give advice to me, allow me to return the favor:

Try not to assume that everyone in the world uses a drug the same way that you do.  If you're able, try to realize that every human being is different, has different needs and different issues which they will handle and confront in different ways.  Your reply is based only on  a lot of presupposition. 

Nonetheless, I value your reply. 

I'm not ashamed of smoking weed, but I am ashamed of abusing it.  If treating weed like a medicine can help me moderate my use, then I am thrilled to go down that path.

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bhopkinz said:
ok we shall agree to disagree then.i respect your opinion too.i would still have to say that potheads in general (at least out of the many ive met) are quite a lazy bunch and generally less fufilled/happy than most people

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tomk said:
I know this doesn't appeal to you, but your problems about thinking too much about everything are the sorts of problems meditation can help. 

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Part of treating weed like medicine is exploring alternate avenues which can help you reduce your dependence on it.

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Hmm...thank you, that is exactly what I am trying to do. 

I would like to make a more serious effort at meditation.  I've been wanting to try yoga for awhile now, which I think would also benefit me greatly.

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and how much it's helped me live a normal life that isn't crippled by fear.

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and how much it's helped me live a normal life that isn't crippled by fear.

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maybe it's just because you usually smoke a lot and don't smoke now that it seems like that. Don't let the weed trick you... (I'm serious)

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Yeah, I know I could be tricking myself...it's hard for me to tell. 

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and how much it's helped me live a normal life that isn't crippled by fear.

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maybe it's just because you usually smoke a lot and don't smoke now that it seems like that. Don't let the weed trick you... (I'm serious)

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Yeah, I know I could be tricking myself...it's hard for me to tell. 

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Perhaps you just think you were 'cripple by fear' and other such things before you smoked weed. Seems to cloud memory sometimes. I wonder if you stopped smoking weed, if the symptoms you were receiving came back.
If you wanted to, you could just wait to see if they come back or not. I can't say I've ever seen studies on such a topic before.

They say psychedelics cure (and in some cases cause) certain problems for people like that. Since weed is supposedly a mild psychedelic, I wonder if it could be used as a similar too.

I really have no idea though... I might just be really baked.

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and how much it's helped me live a normal life that isn't crippled by fear.

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maybe it's just because you usually smoke a lot and don't smoke now that it seems like that. Don't let the weed trick you... (I'm serious)

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Yeah, I know I could be tricking myself...it's hard for me to tell. 

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I wonder if you stopped smoking weed, if the symptoms you were receiving came back. 

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niteowl said:
I have been thinking about this for some time now.

I have a friend that was diagnosed with bi-polar disorder YEARS ago. He was told to stop smoking pot and start taking pills to better control his mood swings.

He was prescribed several different med's and combination of meds. Nothing helped. He would either have no emotions or raging emotions.

He began to think about how his life was before he was diagnosed w/bi-polar disorder. He had mood swings but they were mild in comparison to what the Rx pills were.

He decided to stop with all the pills and started smoking pot again. Didn't telll his Dr/therapist, just quit going to see him. Things slowly began to get better. His marriage improved and his mood swings were not an issue......as long as he got his pot daily.

I really don't see any difference between self-medicating with a plant and taking a pill....as long as his mood swings are under control

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Yes, exactly.  I have have also been told I am bipolar, obsessive compulsive, anxiety disorder, borderline personality over the years.  I never could get a good balance going with the meds I was put on, they would make me either sleep constantly, or get over-jittery and anxious, or just terribly depressed. 

I would like to use weed as a medicine like some people take their pills. 

They're all mind altering. 

But no pill was enjoyable for me to take...weed is enjoyable...and I think that's why now I'm worried that I am just making an excuse to take it?  I know it helps the moodiness and anxiety but it's hard to say with me.  I'm very good at manipulating myself. 

Or maybe I'm just making a mountain out of a molehill...that's equally possible.  I bet most people don't agonize this badly about their weed consumption.  Ehh...sorry for being all dramatic about this. 

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shamanvision said:
as far as potheads being lazy dont fool yourself into thinking its the pot they were i assure you they were lazy to begin with.drugs do not define you as a person.drugs are just what people blame that shit on

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shamanvision said:
as far as potheads being lazy dont fool yourself into thinking its the pot they were i assure you they were lazy to begin with.drugs do not define you as a person.drugs are just what people blame that shit on

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I'd go so far as to say I was lazy before smoking weed, and now I'm less lazy than what I used to be. I think physical activity is pretty great while stoned.

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niteowl said:
My friend is far from lazy. He has been married for 14 years, raised a good step-child and had the same job for 10+ years.


Saying someone is a "lazy pothead" is prejudice.

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