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OfflineStrangeDays
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Re: God [Re: gnrm23]
    #427959 - 10/16/01 10:56 PM (23 years, 4 months ago)


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<quote>
alan watts:
god is the which than which none is whicher
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Try saying that 10 times really fast!


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Offlinegnrm23
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Re: God [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #428244 - 10/17/01 06:58 AM (23 years, 4 months ago)

oh ya...
plenty fertilizer...
occasional pruning...
air & sunlight...
cool & dark...
dab o' poison now & then...
awaiting harvest time...
harvest...


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Re: God [Re: ]
    #428728 - 10/17/01 06:03 PM (23 years, 4 months ago)

How nice. Good for you....

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Re: God [Re: gribochek]
    #428881 - 10/17/01 08:37 PM (23 years, 4 months ago)

Indeed...and you as well

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Re: God [Re: ]
    #429132 - 10/18/01 02:36 AM (23 years, 4 months ago)

If we 1st accept the premise that energy can be neither created or destroyed then 5 billion years ago give or take some all the energy in the universe was 1 single point in essence 1 thing. that means that you me and every other living and non living thing in the entire universe a hundred billion stars and a hundred billion galaxies was once one. Time infinitely streaming future past present all combined every point every atom in the universe inexorably linked to that singularity. Then in that perfect stillness of oneness BANG all streaming from one rushing outward to fill a void incomprehensible. GOD was and is shall ever be the hand that lit the fuse.

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Re: God [Re: Mosby]
    #429139 - 10/18/01 02:52 AM (23 years, 4 months ago)

God is the duality of opposites.

It is a no-thing.

Ain Soph.

Diety is the great unknowable. It is the thing that began all things. It created the universe by expending some of its vast energy to create our universe.
The Tree of Life has the keys to better understanding the Great
Unknowable. The path of the Flaming Sword is the key to opening the gates of the heavens and enlightening your fragile being.


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To do a thing and know no better is ignorance.
It is an act of kindness to educate the ignorant.
To do a wrong thing intentionally, is evil and wicked.





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Offlinegnrm23
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Re: God [Re: Mosby]
    #429287 - 10/18/01 10:56 AM (23 years, 4 months ago)

well...
5 billion y.a. was strictly "local" --- the solar system was formed out of eddies in the gas clouds of the nether regions of our milky way galaxy... (the clouds enriched by novae & supernovae in the region, giving us ---> iron & --->transuranics, respectively...
the "big bang" is accepted as an event that occurred more like 15-22 billion years ago...
(dr shulgin doesn't buy into the "big bang" theory...)
a nice model that contains the 40 billion light year hypershpere we call our universe like a soap bubble in foam (but the "foam" shaped like a cosmic egg & recycling the space, time, & matter it generates) is found in itzak bentov's nice book _stalking the wild pendulum_)
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huh, look at that!
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Edited by gnrm23 (10/18/01 11:13 AM)

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Re: God [Re: Felstorm]
    #429301 - 10/18/01 11:30 AM (23 years, 4 months ago)

... yeah, with that sig, you MUST be holier than all of us thous


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Re: God [Re: gnrm23]
    #429314 - 10/18/01 11:57 AM (23 years, 4 months ago)

My personal theory is that Big Bang has never really happened, but in all times it _seems_ to have happened a sertain period of time ago. The only reason I think that is because it would give a very appealing symmetrical view of the universe, where a horizon of events is both in space and in time, the appearence of the latter now being thoroughly misunderstood by scientists as the Big Bang event. This seems about as strange as to see a horizon of events as a physical boundary where the Universe literally disappears.

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Re: God [Re: gribochek]
    #429316 - 10/18/01 11:59 AM (23 years, 4 months ago)

BTW, how about that holly trinity?

The Fater = that which created the world
The Holly Spirit = that which keeps the world going
The Son = that which is observing the world

The trinity sais that these three are, really, one and the same thing... Hence... oh, boy....

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Re: God [Re: gnrm23]
    #429499 - 10/18/01 03:42 PM (23 years, 4 months ago)

My model was not meant to show a scientific blue print of the universe just a metaphor for the interconnectiveness that all things share and that force that connects us to all things seems divine in nature.I apologize for playing very loose with the time line and realize that the big bang is a generalization of many possible explanations,also that several other theories may better fit the evidence that we can perceive on the origin of the universe.

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    #429574 - 10/18/01 05:16 PM (23 years, 4 months ago)


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Re: God [Re: Anonymous]
    #431285 - 10/20/01 09:10 AM (23 years, 4 months ago)

You must be a modern person, explaining lightning away with "electrons"...

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Re: God *DELETED* [Re: Anonymous]
    #431650 - 10/20/01 05:27 PM (23 years, 4 months ago)

Post deleted by missulena

Edited by missulena (10/20/01 05:41 PM)

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Re: God [Re: missulena]
    #431682 - 10/20/01 06:20 PM (23 years, 4 months ago)

"the belief in god is a socially acceptable delusion"

We can never know the answer, far less convince someone else that your answer is correct.

In an infinite universe isn't everything possible? Ideas that may seem laughable are just as valid as any others. For instance, this universe could be the result of some Cosmic Fart by some otherworldly entity. Maybe every time WE fart we are creating tiny little universes of our own. It's possible, and it's at least as plausible as any other theory.


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Re: God [Re: Revelation]
    #431773 - 10/20/01 08:31 PM (23 years, 3 months ago)

So are you going to base your whole belief system and life on the thought that maybe your farts are creating universes before youve got any evidence, that sounds like delusional thinking to me.
belief in god i believe is a form of psycosis

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Re: God [Re: missulena]
    #432143 - 10/21/01 09:15 AM (23 years, 3 months ago)

No, I don't believe that at all. I'm just saying that everything is possible. Anything we can think of is possible, and perhaps everything we think of is a reality. On the grand scale of things, all beliefs are equally as plausible.


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Re: God [Re: gribochek]
    #432162 - 10/21/01 09:45 AM (23 years, 3 months ago)

God is who we see him to be
OSB


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Re: God [Re: one_smooth_bitch]
    #432214 - 10/21/01 10:52 AM (23 years, 3 months ago)

God/All that is/The Great Central Sun/Creation is THE center of the universe and the source of all life, love, and creativity in this Universe.

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Re: God [Re: Revelation]
    #432958 - 10/22/01 02:02 AM (23 years, 3 months ago)

Who said everythings possible? and every thought sure as hell isnt a reality-a thought may exist but that doesnt mean what it may imply exists in the physical world just because you thought of it in your head , that is how delusional people think they think there thoughts affect the outside world if i imagined i just ate a hamburger but i didnt id still be hungry wouldnt i? and if i continued imaginary eating i would eventually die of starvation that would be a reality despite thought

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