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OfflineGazzBut
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Map Reveals Wind Power Potential
    #4243213 - 06/01/05 08:31 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

If the balance of global politics shifted a little bit away from competition and towards cooperation things like this could be just great. It could even be combined with Bucky Fuller's international grid idea. Fingers crossed!


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Wind power could generate enough electricity to support the world's energy needs several times over, according to a new map of global wind speeds that scientists say is the first of its kind.

The map, compiled by researchers at Stanford University, shows wind speeds at more than 8,000 sites around the world. The researchers found that at least 13 percent of those sites experience winds fast enough to power a modern wind turbine. If turbines were set up in all these regions, they would generate 72 terawatts of electricity, according to the researchers.


See photoThat's more than five times the world's energy needs, which was roughly 14 terawatts in 2002, according to the U.S. Department of Energy.

The researchers readily admit that existing buildings, land rights and other obstacles would make it impossible to set up turbines in every single one of the identified regions. But they point out that even 20 percent of those sites could satisfy world energy consumption as it stands today.

More importantly, the study shows that wind can be a feasible alternative to fossil fuels, said study co-author Cristina Archer.

"There is really a lot of wind out there that can be utilized for electricity generation," said Archer. "The 72-terawatt finding quantifies how much wind power is available.... It's like when people say how much oil is available on a global scale. It doesn't mean all of it will be extracted."

If anything, the 72-terawatt figure is likely to be on the low side. Most of the 8,199 wind-monitoring stations that contributed data to the map are concentrated in highly developed nations. So the researchers had to make broad and often conservative estimates for countries in Africa and Asia, and for other regions.

"They are probably significantly underestimating the total potential," said Christopher Flavin, CEO of the Worldwatch Institute, an environmental research firm.

For instance, Flavin pointed to China, which several environmental organizations have identified as having great potential for wind power. In contrast, the Stanford map shows only a few locations there having the wind speeds necessary to power a wind turbine.

Of the regions that are well-marked by the map, North America and parts of Northern Europe both have a high number of ideal spots for setting up wind turbines. To date, Northern Europe -- and Denmark in particular -- has made the best use of that potential. Approximately 20 percent of Denmark's energy consumption is fulfilled by wind power, according to the Danish Wind Industry Association.

The United States, on the other hand, generates less than 1 percent of its electricity with wind power.

Archer said it was "ironic and sad" that the United States wasn't doing more, given the resources available.

"But it's not too late," she said. "We can still do it and I really hope we do."

The authors' study is scheduled to appear in the Journal of Geophysical Research -- Atmospheres later this month.


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Re: Map Reveals Wind Power Potential [Re: GazzBut]
    #4243315 - 06/01/05 09:52 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Isn't wind power more expensive?  By the time you construct all of the stuff and buy the land, it is cost prohibitive or something.  I read an article on it a while ago.


Archer said it was "ironic and sad" that the United States wasn't doing more, given the resources available.

Uh oh.....blame the U.S.  He sounds like a Lefty.  :smirk:


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Invisiblelooner2
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Re: Map Reveals Wind Power Potential [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #4243674 - 06/01/05 12:22 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I don't want to look at those ugly windmills everywhere, its visual pollution.


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Re: Map Reveals Wind Power Potential [Re: looner2]
    #4243834 - 06/01/05 01:11 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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looner2 said:
I don't want to look at those ugly windmills everywhere, its visual pollution.




are you pathologically stupid? or is it all a charade?


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Re: Map Reveals Wind Power Potential [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #4243862 - 06/01/05 01:23 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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RandalFlagg said:
Isn't wind power more expensive? By the time you construct all of the stuff and buy the land, it is cost prohibitive or something. I read an article on it a while ago.



In terms of efficiency, wind power was once quite costly, but improvements in wind power technology since the mid-90's have made it about as efficient as coal power, which is why I'm all for building more wind farms.

On a side note, I also see solar panels on buildings becoming more and more popular and less expensive in the upcoming years, as the cost of petroleum rises.


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Re: Map Reveals Wind Power Potential [Re: Doom]
    #4245117 - 06/01/05 07:02 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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Doom said:
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looner2 said:
I don't want to look at those ugly windmills everywhere, its visual pollution.




are you pathologically stupid? or is it all a charade?




Send him away.


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Re: Map Reveals Wind Power Potential [Re: looner2]
    #4245122 - 06/01/05 07:04 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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looner2 said:
I don't want to look at those ugly windmills everywhere, its visual pollution.




The Kennedys agree. The put the kibosh on turbines off of Cape Cod.


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Invisiblelooner2
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Re: Map Reveals Wind Power Potential [Re: zappaisgod]
    #4245526 - 06/01/05 08:51 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)



The Kennedys agree. The put the kibosh on turbines off of Cape Cod.


Exactly.  :thumbup:


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Re: Map Reveals Wind Power Potential [Re: looner2]
    #4246140 - 06/02/05 12:01 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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looner2 said:
I don't want to look at those ugly windmills everywhere, its visual pollution.




Yeah, what's the point of helping to save the world if you have to look at wind mills?  :smirk:

I do not believe that windmills would be cost prohibitive.  Just the fact that wouldn't have to finger fuck with the Saudis anymore makes it worth it.






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Re: Map Reveals Wind Power Potential *DELETED* [Re: GazzBut]
    #4246488 - 06/02/05 01:56 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Map Reveals Wind Power Potential [Re: Letto]
    #4247383 - 06/02/05 11:20 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Nuclear energy only seems plausible now because it's heavily subsidized. The true costs are hidden in tax dollars. It's actually quite inefficient, plus you have to worry about disposing of the nuclear waste.


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Re: Map Reveals Wind Power Potential [Re: looner2]
    #4247542 - 06/02/05 12:36 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

http://www.cnn.com/TECH/science/9901/05/windpower.enn/story.windfarm.jpg

How is that any uglier than, say, a building? Besides, aesthetic beauty shouldn't be a factor when it comes to improving the world's energy needs.


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Re: Map Reveals Wind Power Potential [Re: looner2]
    #4247558 - 06/02/05 12:42 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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looner2 said:
I don't want to look at those ugly windmills everywhere, its visual pollution.




Hahaha looner that made me burst out laughing. Some time i wonder if u post stuff like that to get a rise out of people.

Also im having trouble thinking of the name of the arcade game your avatar came out of. Metal Slug?


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Re: Map Reveals Wind Power Potential [Re: baraka]
    #4247577 - 06/02/05 12:51 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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baraka said:
Some time i wonder if u post stuff like that to get a rise out of people.



I thought it was obvious. :shrug:


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Re: Map Reveals Wind Power Potential [Re: GazzBut]
    #4248137 - 06/02/05 03:20 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Bring it on


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Invisiblelooner2
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Re: Map Reveals Wind Power Potential [Re: baraka]
    #4248233 - 06/02/05 03:43 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)


Hahaha looner that made me burst out laughing. Some time i wonder if u post stuff like that to get a rise out of people.


Like zappa said, I'm not the only one obviously. In fact, its been blocked a lot of places because people just don't want to look at them. It is mostly the liberal elite who talk about banning gas guzzlers then don't want wind power because it is ugly to see. Have you ever seen them in person?


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Re: Map Reveals Wind Power Potential [Re: looner2]
    #4248250 - 06/02/05 03:47 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

There's a huge wind farm on my way out to San Francisco. Looks great to me.


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Re: Map Reveals Wind Power Potential [Re: Silversoul]
    #4248270 - 06/02/05 03:52 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Thats because your a nature hating capitalist pig :smile:


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