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Offlineonefunguy
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which strain is best ???
    #4242488 - 06/01/05 01:27 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I'm a new amateur mycologist ....and i have only grown 2 strains Golden Teachers and Ecuador's. with the GT's i got very good fruiting to occur...in a matter of hours i saw one shroom go from 4 inches to about 9 inches...i could almost watch it grow!!!!....i dosed about 3.5 g's but to my disappointment i didn't get very many visuals but a really good body high...the EQ's were my first to grow and i didn't know much about dosage and figured to pick what i had. (which i assume now was about 7-8 grams) i went to my favorite reservoir and split them up with 4 of my friends.we didn't get too high more like a very strong marijuana high ...and i haven't had the chance to grow any since.I have always had a problem with getting visuals i don't know if its me going into the trip thinking i want VISUALS!!!!:cussing: and counter acting what could have takin place ... :confused:.so my question is what is the easiest/best strain to grow for great visuals....or should i just take 8 grams
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Re: which strain is best ??? [Re: onefunguy]
    #4242581 - 06/01/05 01:49 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

'visuals' are a very strong effect of hallucinogens and with it comes the other strong effects, like mind loops and other crazy shit i don't like. strong visual hallucinations are fun though...and sometimes hilarious!
eat a few more wet shrooms, you're sure to hallucinate.

i'm partial to the PF race. i think they sometimes go by the name of Matias Romero or amazonian...


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Re: which strain is best ??? [Re: felix]
    #4242645 - 06/01/05 02:10 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

k thanks you darn cat!


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Re: which strain is best ??? [Re: onefunguy]
    #4242677 - 06/01/05 02:16 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Contrary to popular belief, mushrooms aren't all about visuals. That isn't what makes them enjoyable.

However, if you really really want visuals, you can try an MAOI to change your trip. I used passionflower, which you can get at a lot of organic stores, and had a HUGE trip. Things were morphing into eachother... It was too powerful though, I would have enjoyed a regular mushroom trip more


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Re: which strain is best ??? [Re: felix]
    #4242718 - 06/01/05 02:28 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Those mind loops aren't fun, at all! You get stuck on something, or a series of somethings that just goes around and around like a fucking broken record. :thumbdown:


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Re: which strain is best ??? [Re: blissedout]
    #4242792 - 06/01/05 02:47 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

i'v heard taking vitamin c greatly increases the trip. true?


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Re: which strain is best ??? [Re: onefunguy]
    #4242802 - 06/01/05 02:49 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

ummm... eat more?


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Re: which strain is best ??? [Re: onefunguy]
    #4242812 - 06/01/05 02:52 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I know it helps somehow, but I am not sure what. Maybe it helps to build your serotonin back up? I'll look it up for you.


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Re: which strain is best ??? [Re: blissedout]
    #4242816 - 06/01/05 02:54 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Maoi?

Could you please elaborate on that?


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Re: which strain is best ??? [Re: blissedout]
    #4242828 - 06/01/05 02:58 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Sorry couldn't find anything. Got tired of looking.


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Re: which strain is best ??? [Re: StrandedVoyager]
    #4242842 - 06/01/05 03:03 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

monoamine oxidase inhibitors: Once the brain's three neurotransmitters, known as monoamines (serotonin, norepinephrine, and dopamine), have played their part in sending messages in the brain, they get burned up by a protein in the brain called monoamine oxidase, a liver and brain enzyme. If too many monoamines are absorbed, it leads to a chemical imbalance in the brain.

Antidepressants known as monoamine oxidase inhibitors, or maoi, work by blocking this cleanup activity. When the excess neurotransmitters don't get destroyed, they start piling up in the brain. And since depression is associated with low levels of these monoamines, it's not surprising that increasing the monoamines eases depressive symptoms.

Unfortunately, monoamine oxidase doesn't just destroy those neurotransmitters; it's also responsible for mopping up another amine called tyramine, a molecule that affects blood pressure. It is due to the tyramine that taking an MAOI requires that you stick with an extremely stringent diet, otherwise, you risk potentially devastating side effects to your body.

Basically, they shut down the cells that digest psilocybin (in this case) to your brain, so no psilocybin is lost to your digestive system, it all goes to your head.. MAOIs can be dangerous because of the tyramine thing, and should be studied before using..


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Re: which strain is best ??? [Re: Kalix]
    #4242845 - 06/01/05 03:06 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

:thumbup:


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Re: which strain is best ??? [Re: blissedout]
    #4242861 - 06/01/05 03:13 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Golden Teachers get me thinking of Golden Peaches, so I imagine they are a tasty shroom if there ever was one


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Re: which strain is best ??? [Re: Kalix]
    #4242866 - 06/01/05 03:17 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Kalix said:
monoamine oxidase inhibitors: Once the brain's three neurotransmitters, known as monoamines (serotonin, norepinephrine, and dopamine), have played their part in sending messages in the brain, they get burned up by a protein in the brain called monoamine oxidase, a liver and brain enzyme. If too many monoamines are absorbed, it leads to a chemical imbalance in the brain.

Antidepressants known as monoamine oxidase inhibitors, or maoi, work by blocking this cleanup activity. When the excess neurotransmitters don't get destroyed, they start piling up in the brain. And since depression is associated with low levels of these monoamines, it's not surprising that increasing the monoamines eases depressive symptoms.

Unfortunately, monoamine oxidase doesn't just destroy those neurotransmitters; it's also responsible for mopping up another amine called tyramine, a molecule that affects blood pressure. It is due to the tyramine that taking an MAOI requires that you stick with an extremely stringent diet, otherwise, you risk potentially devastating side effects to your body.

Basically, they shut down the cells that digest psilocybin (in this case) to your brain, so no psilocybin is lost to your digestive system, it all goes to your head.. MAOIs can be dangerous because of the tyramine thing, and should be studied before using..




Interesting, thank you  :thumbup:


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Re: which strain is best ??? [Re: faslimy]
    #4242872 - 06/01/05 03:22 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

If ever there was one is right. I haven't tasted a good tasting one yet, but I still eat the hell out of them. :smirk:


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Re: which strain is best ??? [Re: faslimy]
    #4242891 - 06/01/05 03:33 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

wow kalix you know your shit . is that from a site ..if so could you post it so i can take a gander


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Re: which strain is best ??? [Re: onefunguy]
    #4243823 - 06/01/05 01:07 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Yes MAO-I must increase the potency as it inhibits the enzyme that breaks down serotonine and dopamine but on my personal experiences I don't find it so much difference.


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Re: which strain is best ??? [Re: barisk]
    #4243892 - 06/01/05 01:32 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

psilocin is also a monoamine and is broken down by MAO

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tryptamine

note the slight chemical differences between these


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Re: which strain is best ??? [Re: extinguishment]
    #4244425 - 06/01/05 04:17 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Yes you are right it must make difference maybe I have to try more.


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He went into the room where his sister lived, and...then he
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And he came to a door...and he looked inside
Father, yes son, I want to kill you
Mother...I want to...fuck you
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Re: which strain is best ??? [Re: onefunguy]
    #4245617 - 06/01/05 09:19 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

ALSO, if you plan on eating alot, i mean ALOT, make sure you're nowhere around 'no tresspassing' areas and other peoples property. a strong trip or hallucination can recreate your world entirely. like you may end up scaling a mountain to get to the mysterious and enchanting looking castle at the top, but in reality you're slowly crawling up somebody's front lawn towards their house.

i remember people used to eat rediculous amounts of shrooms. like in the hundreds of grams range and eating dried mushrooms until they were full of them like being full from a big meal or buffet.


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