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    #4241744 - 05/31/05 10:29 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Does anyone know anything about weilii growing on pine straw? I read that it was originally isolated from pine barren forest. Has anyone seen it growing on pine straw? Grown on agar with pine straw mixed in? I read the post where someone was growing it on wheat straw.


Edited by augiepie (06/01/05 03:33 PM)


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Re: weilii [Re: Pie]
    #4247958 - 06/02/05 02:37 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

noboby knows or nobody cares? Just a question. I saw the report on cultivating it on straw and had seen it on my search, so I asked.
I'll just stick to reading and responding to other people's posts if that is the way it is done for a neophyte. I see posts offering to ban those who ask too many questions.


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Re: weilii [Re: Pie]
    #4251621 - 06/03/05 10:36 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

huh, you take shit to personally, i have never seen pic or a grow log of any one growing these i rember some spores going around a couple years ago but thats about it, do some research and inlighten use...


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Re: weilii [Re: Pie]
    #4251627 - 06/03/05 10:43 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

whats pine straw?


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Re: weilii [Re: Pie]
    #4251805 - 06/03/05 12:13 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

augiepie said:
I see posts offering to ban those who ask too many questions.




i know whom you are alluding to.
he can be excepted from common protocol for being extraordinarily stupid.
no one will give you shit for asking q's when the informatiom is not readily available.

i'm pretty sure that this series of questions does not fall into that category.

so, please continue, as i am interested inb the cultivation of this species, too.

maybe you could provide a link to the initial account of the cultivation on straw?
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Re: weilii [Re: psilocyben]
    #4251924 - 06/03/05 12:54 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: weilii [Re: 5meopsyco]
    #4252220 - 06/03/05 02:59 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

O.K. I remembered incorrectly. It was on Hardwood and dung. Still what intigues me about this species is that it was found on pine needles. For those who don.t know, pine in the south tends to form barrens. So called because the only big thing out there is pine. They produce pine needles, which is highly flammable and the fires kill everything off. The deep south has a lot of pine (yellow, black, longleaf, shortleak, loblolly, slash ; all kinds of pine) Has ayone seen this in the wild and if so was it growing out of pine needles. Would it be possible to do a poll? Are there journal articles on this? Isn't this the work of some grad student. I really don't know where to look on it.


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Re: weilii [Re: Pie]
    #4252244 - 06/03/05 03:09 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...part=1&vc=1

Workman's.
Edited to add the pics that are missing



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Re: weilii [Re: @cro]
    #4252288 - 06/03/05 03:28 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Says access denied on that link. ?por que? Nice pics, maestro


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Re: weilii [Re: Pie]
    #4253326 - 06/03/05 08:23 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

http://www.stainblue.com/andrewweil.html

Here is where it says that it grows beneath loblolly pines


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Re: weilii [Re: Pie]
    #4253362 - 06/03/05 08:33 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Also for matty monkey, Pine straw are the fallen leaves of the longleaf types of pine. In the south it is what everyone puts down for mulch, as common as I imagine wood chips are in the PNW.


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Re: weilii [Re: Pie]
    #4253453 - 06/03/05 08:52 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

It's located in a forum you don't have access to yet.

Here's the text to go along with the pics:
Workman -
Psilocybe weilii:
Substrate: sterilized horse manure
Casing: peat/oystershell
Temperature: 78F
Pins formed 50 days after casing and are developing slowly.

There is a slight chance this is actually P. caerulescens Murrill, a very similar species. Confirmation of species identity will be attempted using microscopic features when the mushrooms are mature.
Cultivation parameters are in the first post of this thread. They were grown at cubensis parameters but they take forever (50-70 days) to pin. The casing looks dead for weeks before the first pin appears.

Note: It was suggested by Gumby that temps be increased into the eighties.

That's about it for the synopsis.


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Re: weilii [Re: @cro]
    #4254317 - 06/04/05 12:50 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

dang that sure is a long time.... but they look oh so tasty..lol


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Re: weilii [Re: ThumpaCap]
    #4255239 - 06/04/05 10:12 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

w is on yarrak


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Re: weilii [Re: Pie]
    #4255353 - 06/04/05 11:16 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

thats interesting to hear. I live in the deep south and basically when you walk into woods the floor is a mat of pine needles. I've been focusing mainly on trying to get my edibles to fruit but i recieved a freebie syringe of weilli so i basically have around 6 weilli isolates ive been passively working on with no actual plans on fruiting. If I can find myself a 30 qt stock pot or 55 gal drum, i'll definitely go and collect a bag of pine needles, pasturize, and test this substrate out.


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Re: weilii [Re: Eightball]
    #4256153 - 06/04/05 04:03 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I wonder how pine needles compost, and if it leaches out the natural fungicides in the leaves. For those who don't knoe pine produces loads of almost petro like chemicals. Turpintine and pitch are two biproducts of pine are were heavy industries in the colonial south.

There is a guy who says he has a formulation to use pine chips to grow shitakes. He has it being patented now but wants to licsence it out.Donald Alger is his name but there is nothing on the net on him.

we got lots of pine needles. Down here we also have lots 1 inch pine chips for use in the paper industry. American paper is mostly pine, from the paper you print on to the stuff you have in the bathroom. If a pine grower of any useful species could be found it could have a tremendous economic impact on the South. I won't even go into the amount of pine sawdust. All of it waste.


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Re: weilii [Re: Pie]
    #4256538 - 06/04/05 06:15 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I deal mainly with edibles like i said so i will keep that in mind. Im in florida and the only wood chip sources en masse are pine or mixed with pine so that makes shiitake blocks very difficult to produce. I will definitely be looking into adding pine to agar and fruiting substrates. Perhaps a multispore innoc would be best due to high genetic variance and potential for one to be more suited for pine, but unfortunately just have isolates at the moment so ill see what i can do. Hell, i bet a grant would be easy to squeeze out of somebody for this.


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Re: weilii [Re: Eightball]
    #4257221 - 06/04/05 09:45 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

a grant would be nice :smile:


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Re: weilii [Re: ThumpaCap]
    #4262277 - 06/06/05 01:52 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

First off, weilii grows mostly on heavily mowed Bermuda grass, living in GA i know this, and look forward to this years flush.

now for a question.. foenisecii?
inactive.. but not due to small amounts of psilocybin, psilocin etc.

and I'm more into hunting then growing, so i ask of you,
why would this be inactive even if consumed in extreme doses, or extracted (my choice)?

there's psilocybin but, no way to use it? spiritually speaking, i don't think that can happen


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Re: weilii [Re: DannyKindbuds]
    #4264358 - 06/06/05 05:56 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Just a thought . Expand 5 liters of liquid polyculture mycielium and put it in a backpack sprayer. Hit every available niche you see that looks of promise. Chances are minimal any one would take but the investment per inoculation would be minimal. The cultivator can wait for the most conducive environmental factors to help things along. Then do nothing. Just make the environment somewhere you would normally frequent and observe.

Maybe you could displace some of those lawn mower mushrooms.


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