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OfflineBleaK
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to my mother and father.
    #4238883 - 05/31/05 05:14 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

how can you possibly justify making new life, when u dont even know wat it is?

you gave me life, now give me an answer.


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Re: to my mother and father. [Re: BleaK]
    #4238893 - 05/31/05 05:19 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Luke, I am not your father....  ::::deep loud breath::::


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Re: to my mother and father. [Re: BleaK]
    #4238906 - 05/31/05 05:30 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

how can you possibly justify making new life

Lots of alcohol just before closing time is as good a "justification" as any...


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Re: to my mother and father. [Re: Swami]
    #4238985 - 05/31/05 06:45 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

shouldnt you be asking this to God or whatever higher power or order of the universe you believe?


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Offlineslaphappy
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Re: to my mother and father. [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #4239148 - 05/31/05 09:25 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

When called into existance one is being presented with the choice to bring others into existance as well. Atleast it is presented as a choice. But this is all backwards, and we are standing in the wrong spot to understand the fundament of your parents and your own existance.

Let me explain: You are God, you have always existed and will always exist. Always existing is boring, so you have chosen to forget. Time is limitless in any direction, it is merely a forgetting-device which you invented for yourself.

Your parents does not exist as your parents, they are just your justification of your own existence. (If you see, I have flipped it around for you, because you would not automatically know this on beforehand because that is infact impossible, as this all is.)

First there was you, then there was your parents. They are the most important guides in your "memory-databank" which you percieve as "life". Remember, you know you are God. You must tell your parents how to guide you, because they will never know unless you show them.

"How am I to guide my parents into guiding me in the memory which I have chosen to forget?", you ask yourself. If you're on track, that is...

The answer is: You don't. Let it go, and live your life as not-planned. Be happy. Don't worry. Love your parents. Love yourself. Be.


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Re: to my mother and father. [Re: slaphappy]
    #4239156 - 05/31/05 09:30 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

You are God, you have always existed and will always exist. Always existing is boring, so you have chosen to forget.

But SH, has not chosen to forget?!  :rolleyes:

Did you not just ruin the plot?  :mad2:


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OfflineJacquesCousteau
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Re: to my mother and father. [Re: Swami]
    #4239168 - 05/31/05 09:41 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

He only ruined the plot if you fully embrace his statements based only on his words... which I don't think anyone will do. It is human nature to ignore another's attempt to guide... we always have to "find out the hard way..."


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OfflineDoom
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Re: to my mother and father. [Re: BleaK]
    #4239170 - 05/31/05 09:42 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

BleaK said:
how can you possibly justify making new life, when u dont even know wat it is?

you gave me life, now give me an answer.




oh, poor baby, are you hungry for some milk?


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Re: to my mother and father. [Re: Doom]
    #4239360 - 05/31/05 11:14 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

ya ive often had similar thoughts too, many modern parents seem so ignorant..


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OfflineGomp
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Re: to my mother and father. [Re: BleaK]
    #4239375 - 05/31/05 11:19 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

BleaK said:
how can you possibly justify making new life, when u dont even know wat it is?

you gave me life, now give me an answer.




You are it....  :confused: :thumbup:

hehe


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Re: to my mother and father. [Re: budsicle]
    #4239384 - 05/31/05 11:22 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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budsicle said:
ya ive often had similar thoughts too, many modern parents seem so ignorant..




yeah, modern parents are such assholes. I really miss the days when parents would drown their children if they suspected them to be cursed by some supernatural entity.

Modern parents...????


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Re: to my mother and father. [Re: Doom]
    #4239635 - 05/31/05 01:03 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

lots of parents seem to think of life as a blessing. i dont think someone has to use drugs to believe something like that.


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OfflineGwynevere
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Re: to my mother and father. [Re: crunchytoast]
    #4240498 - 05/31/05 05:02 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I don't understand why parents should be held accountable for the answers. They are fallible and transient. Besides there's a distinct possibility that there are no universal truths.
Perhaps at present life is not so much about the answers as the pursuit of them
And, I don't buy into the thought that an action shouldn't be supported simply because it's not understood.
If you don't try something then often there's no opportunity to learn.


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OfflineOldWoodSpecter
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Re: to my mother and father. [Re: BleaK]
    #4240659 - 05/31/05 05:41 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

BleaK said:
how can you possibly justify making new life, when u dont even know wat it is?

you gave me life, now give me an answer.




first of all, if people stoped having children, all humanity would die out in about 80 years

second, life is how you define it and how you shape it


and third, they didn't give you life, they just had sex


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OfflineBleaK
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Re: to my mother and father. [Re: slaphappy]
    #4241251 - 05/31/05 08:01 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

slaphappy said:
When called into existance one is being presented with the choice to bring others into existance as well. Atleast it is presented as a choice. But this is all backwards, and we are standing in the wrong spot to understand the fundament of your parents and your own existance.

Let me explain: You are God, you have always existed and will always exist.


i have heard of this idea. but it doesnt do any more for me than any other doctrine. maybe it isnt suposed to. tho, i am looking for a more functional plan.
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Always existing is boring, so you have chosen to forget. Time is limitless in any direction, it is merely a forgetting-device which you invented for yourself.

Your parents does not exist as your parents, they are just your justification of your own existence. (If you see, I have flipped it around for you, because you would not automatically know this on beforehand because that is infact impossible, as this all is.)

First there was you, then there was your parents.


Are you saying my parents are not gods? since they came after me?
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They are the most important guides in your "memory-databank" which you percieve as "life". Remember, you know you are God. You must tell your parents how to guide you, because they will never know unless you show them.

"How am I to guide my parents into guiding me in the memory which I have chosen to forget?", you ask yourself. If you're on track, that is...

The answer is: You don't. Let it go, and live your life as not-planned. Be happy. Don't worry. Love your parents. Love yourself. Be.




ty for the attempt.


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OfflineBleaK
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Re: to my mother and father. [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #4241272 - 05/31/05 08:06 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

OldWoodSpecter said:
Quote:

BleaK said:
how can you possibly justify making new life, when u dont even know wat it is?

you gave me life, now give me an answer.




first of all, if people stoped having children, all humanity would die out in about 80 years


bingo.
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second, life is how you define it and how you shape it


look up soft-determinism. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=soft-determinism&btnG=Google+Search
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and third, they didn't give you life, they just had sex




i didnt kill anyone, i just fired a gun at them. theyre the ones who blead to death.


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Re: to my mother and father. [Re: BleaK]
    #4241320 - 05/31/05 08:19 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

how can you compare giving life with taking life?

If you see giving life as something bad, then taking life is something good, so giving life does not deserve to be put in the same spot as taking life

as for shaping your own life...
why am I not crying for not having a yacht? Because I don't want it.
And a rich guy might cry if his yacht sank.
so what is the difference between the two of us?
I chose to look at a lack of yacht as something that is not a problem

p.s. you do have a choice not to live


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OfflineBleaK
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Re: to my mother and father. [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #4241431 - 05/31/05 08:49 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

OldWoodSpecter said:
how can you compare giving life with taking life?


i did not make that compairson, i could, i have actually, but wont here.

my statement "i didnt kill anyone, i just fired a gun at them. theyre the ones who blead to death." was a metaphor for your statement "and third, they didn't give you life, they just had sex".
it was my attempt to show that having sex(in the way they did) is giving life. as in my statement, i claimed to not kill anyone even tho it was my action, of pulling the trigger, that caused their eventual death.
i hope that was complicated enough.
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If you see giving life as something bad, then taking life is something good, so giving life does not deserve to be put in the same spot as taking life

as for shaping your own life...
why am I not crying for not having a yacht? Because I don't want it.
And a rich guy might cry if his yacht sank.
so what is the difference between the two of us?
I chose to look at a lack of yacht as something that is not a problem

p.s. you do have a choice not to live




i agree a lack of a yaht is not a problem, but these days its becomming difficult to satisfy basic health needs. in alot of places its near impossible.

p.s. i know.


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Re: to my mother and father. [Re: BleaK]
    #4241461 - 05/31/05 08:58 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

a lack of yacht to him is as big of a problem as when I run out of film for my camera. Our tastes move together with our life standard.
For him living like me would be enough to kill himself unles he adopted, yet I am happy.

The less you need the richer you are, so need less

p.s. what are your health problems?


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Re: to my mother and father. [Re: BleaK]
    #4241908 - 05/31/05 11:05 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Accept responsibility for what you have control over and leave the rest to others. Self pity will get you nowhere.


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