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My first growing project - P.C penis envy
    #4235936 - 05/30/05 07:07 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Hey guys, whats up ? my first post here on the Shroomery,
hopefully the first of many more to come :cool: hehe...

Anyways, heres my first growing project, P.E spores inoculated in BRF
using PF Tek basically, colonized for like 2.5 weeks in an improvised incubator using the fishtank heater tek
then I just moved the cakes to a big blue nylonbag from the kind you use for garbage bins, although it looks opaque it allows some light in and its blue so I guessed it will work. I put a layer of wet perlite on the bottom and just put the cakes on the perlite, I fan them with a ventilator like 5-10 times a day, and mist them with a hand sprayer like 2-3 times a day depends on how lazy I am that specific day :smile: ...

Now, These cakes have been fruiting for like a week or so but still the shrooms are relatively small, is this related to the P.E strain
or just poor growing parameters, becuase I had to do it really stealthy and use just materials I found around the house w/o really putting a lot of $ into it.


its hard for me to tell, because im really new to this thing, do you guys think harvesting should happen soon ?


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Re: My first growing project - P.C penis envy [Re: zoharusa]
    #4235985 - 05/30/05 08:20 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

yes harvest right before or after the veil breaks mushrooms are appropriately sized for pf cakes if you want bigger think about casing them next time

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Re: My first growing project - P.C penis envy [Re: zoharusa]
    #4235986 - 05/30/05 08:20 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Your shrooms are fine for a first timer :smile: Yeah the stems look fat and the caps small, but that ok. Harvest whenever the caps are about to open or have already opened. Make sure you get some decent caps to make some prints too. No one can really expect their shrooms to look perfect the first time.


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Re: My first growing project - P.C penis envy [Re: Mighty Bop]
    #4235991 - 05/30/05 08:22 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

as far as taking prints are concerned you might be SOL penis envy is notorious for not dropping spores

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Re: My first growing project - P.C penis envy [Re: lowdominion]
    #4236005 - 05/30/05 08:31 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Well that's strange. I would give it a try anyways. Someone is making all those prints!!!


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Re: My first growing project - P.C penis envy [Re: lowdominion]
    #4236016 - 05/30/05 08:36 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Looking at the picture, I think some caps have already open right ?
theyre pretty small so its hard to tell...

How many of these you think I should consume to get to a level 3-4 kind of trip ? all of them ? :cool:

BTW, I cased 2 crumbled BRF cakes seperately with a 60/40 verm/coir mix, the casing just started fruiting the other day but I think it kinda overlayed somehow and the 1st flush looks crappy, 20+ shrooms...

ill attach a pic maybe later on today.

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Re: My first growing project - P.C penis envy [Re: Mighty Bop]
    #4236019 - 05/30/05 08:37 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

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Well that's strange. I would give it a try anyways. Someone is making all those prints!!!




Depends on the maturity/size i think..


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Re: My first growing project - P.C penis envy [Re: Miscusi]
    #4236060 - 05/30/05 09:02 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

It looks like some have started opening. Look for a broken veil right under the cap, and you will also see gills. I can't tell you how many to eat for a level 3-4 trip. Let alone wet, which I have never done. Do wet if you want a stronger trip though, from what I have heard. Have you ever taken shrooms before? The FAQ explains these things pretty well. Yeah post a pic pf that casing :smile:


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Re: My first growing project - P.C penis envy [Re: Mighty Bop]
    #4236083 - 05/30/05 09:15 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

yea ive eaten shrooms before, never tried to grow them before tho.
I like the fresh mushroomy taste... adunno some ppl hate it I guess.
here are 2 pictures of my casing
it sucks ass and im dissapointed from it, though I didnt really have any expectations when I started it, you know, 1st time grow, casing, its not recommended, but I said what the heck and gave it a shot

its 60/40 verm/coir guess it kinda overlayed there in the beginning
becuase I didnt provide good air exchange and fruiting took like a week and a half to start.
i hope for better 2nd and 3rd flushes


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Re: My first growing project - P.C penis envy [Re: Mighty Bop]
    #4236091 - 05/30/05 09:18 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

My first grow was of P.E.'s as well, we cased them and lucked our way somehow into only getting contam mid 4th flush. Ours looked a lot fatter and bigger than those, but they are by far my favorite mushrooms.

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Re: My first growing project - P.C penis envy [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #4236119 - 05/30/05 09:32 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Hey dude, I have never tried the P.Es before
can you tell me something about dosage and potency ?

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Re: My first growing project - P.C penis envy [Re: zoharusa]
    #4236146 - 05/30/05 09:41 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Cute wienies...


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Re: My first growing project - P.C penis envy [Re: Juan_del_Pueblo]
    #4236171 - 05/30/05 09:49 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

well, the ones i grew were ridiculously strong. Everyone, seriously everyone, was getting lvl 4 trips from crap like 2 tiny aborts. I ate this shroomungus one right out the myc that was 39 grams wet and tripped for 8 amazing hours off that one, even started overheating. Even though most people here dont believe that strains vary on strength, IMO penis envies have been the most potent everytime I have eaten them. I have even seen a few websites claim this also.

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Re: My first growing project - P.C penis envy [Re: Juan_del_Pueblo]
    #4236177 - 05/30/05 09:49 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah...just look for the broken veils under the cap...if you wait long enough it will look like a pair of panties sliding down the stem. Then eat away....being small like they are and low in numbers, you may want to dry em and wait for another flush before you eat....you want to make sure you have anough for a level 3 or 4 trip.


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Re: My first growing project - P.C penis envy [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #4236190 - 05/30/05 09:52 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

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psilocyberin said:
well, the ones i grew were ridiculously strong. Everyone, seriously everyone, was getting lvl 4 trips from crap like 2 tiny aborts. I ate this shroomungus one right out the myc that was 39 grams wet and tripped for 8 amazing hours off that one, even started overheating. Even though most people here dont believe that strains vary on strength, IMO penis envies have been the most potent everytime I have eaten them. I have even seen a few websites claim this also.


That is friggin amazing...the cambos I just harvested I munched on the aborts and got almost nothing, then 1.5 grams on the first actual journey and had a Level 1....perhaps I should try the penis envy AND do the poo.


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Re: My first growing project - P.C penis envy [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #4236220 - 05/30/05 10:04 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Penis envies are definitely unique and potent cubies....any ones I've had and dried out were completely solid and dark blue, about double the potency of any other cubes.

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Re: My first growing project - P.C penis envy [Re: kronnyQ]
    #4236248 - 05/30/05 10:17 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

and penis envies have the best of the (my i guess) grading scale:

1-5 body high: PE's are about a 4
1-5 visuals: PE's are 5 (IMO more visual than hawaiians)
1-5 mind fuck (aka wtfness): a 6....

I would say the mind fuck and visuals i got off every (and there were many) PE trips were on the same level as some acid trips.

One time, me and 5 friends just munched a crapload of these before going to see a keller williams show. The girl that was supposed to drive only took two tiny aborts and about 20 minutes later we got in the car to drive only 10 minutes to downtown. It took us about 30 minutes to get there because everyone was tripping so hard and the chick that was driving had to keep pulling over to get her shit straight. Once we got there we were all just geeking out dumbfounded standing in line, got up to the point where we had to buy tickets and half the people freaked and said they were too fucked up go see the show, so we got in the car and carefully drove back home.
You know you are supremely fucked up if you are "too fried to see keller".

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Re: My first growing project - P.C penis envy [Re: lowdominion]
    #4236261 - 05/30/05 10:27 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Looks like you did a great job for your first grow attempt great job! :thumbup: :thumbup:


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Re: My first growing project - P.C penis envy [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #4236263 - 05/30/05 10:27 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

I don't see how you can have a hard trip on 2 tiny aborts, but then again what do I know??


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Re: My first growing project - P.C penis envy [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #4236280 - 05/30/05 10:35 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Hey dude, you gotta hear this shit..
like a couple of days ago, I opened up the fruiting chamber only to notice 2 small shrooms lying on the perlite, dont know how they got there, probably fell of the cakes somehow dunno...
anyway I said what the heck, just shoved them straight away, its a shame to waste shrooms you know :smile:

now I ate them in the morning when I woke up,
and forgot all about it thinking theyre small as shit and wont do nothing.

anyway the day went by, noonish, im at a friends house
were smoking some homegrown buds, my friend grew some green in the backyard, sensi but small buds, never mind..
anywho, after 2 bowls I get this slight body high like the coming up of acid or something, but it wasnt that strong just a vibe in the background if you know what I mean.

So now when I heard the story about the crazy chick with the aborts
I realised maybe the 2 small shrooms had some effect.. im dying to eat the mature ones already :smile:

I have another question though, I still have one P.E Jar still trying to get fully colonized, what happened is that after all my other 5 jars got fully colonized this jar just refused to finish the damn colonization and had like a 1/4 of uncolonized substrate still sitting in there doing nothing... I just said fuck it, went on with the project and left the other jar behind in my drawer to sit and think about its bad behaviour... im talking about almost three weeks that have passed already since I birthed the other cakes.
Today I went to the drawer to check out on the leftover jar, and it looked kinda like its trying to get fully colonized but still half of it is like good healty myc and the other half, or maybe 1/4 of it is just this weak, strandy myc that doesnt look good enough to me.
Im thinking about maybe brewing a tea from this cake, dicing it up and shit you know how to make tea I guess.
my question is, I know usually you can make the tea with spent cakes
and it will get you stoned as shit
but what happens if you make tea from a pretty much new cake that still has all the nutes in it ? will I get plastered as shit ? :smile:
if you want i can attach a pic of the strange cake its still in its jar

just added the pics
Side A is the good side
Side B is the not so good side - as I said about 1/4 of the sub is still looking uncolonized but its just on the outside I dont know whats going inside...


Good Side


Bad Side

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Re: My first growing project - P.C penis envy [Re: zoharusa]
    #4236376 - 05/30/05 11:12 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

i had the same problem with my current batch of B+'s, 2 out of 10 jars didnt fully colonize so i let them sit for a week past the other ones until i finally just scraped off the uncolonized parts and dunked them and rolled them....

btw.... dunk and roll religiously, it increased the fruiting of my cakes by about 200%

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Re: My first growing project - P.C penis envy [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #4236394 - 05/30/05 11:19 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

yea about the dunking and rolling, I did it for the 3 cakes I birthed
but I didnt do it for the 2 cakes I crumbled for the casing
I figured theres not much need in dunking before casing although theoretically speaking it can probably help bring back water content and make an easier life for the casing.

anyway, you think I should make tea from this semi-colonized cake ?
im thinking about doing it right now :smile:

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Re: My first growing project - P.C penis envy [Re: zoharusa]
    #4236410 - 05/30/05 11:24 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

i have never even heard of people boiling the cakes and tripping off it. I didnt even think mycellium had any psychoactive properties. I could be wrong, im no grow master by any means. If I were you I would hope that it keeps growing, or cut it off and fruit it. Most of the myc i see on that pic is really healthy and thick and should yeild a good amoutn of mushrooms. The two i cut almost in half have already had two flushes and have grown about 8 dried grams each so far.

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Re: My first growing project - P.C penis envy [Re: zoharusa]
    #4236587 - 05/30/05 12:35 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

There are TEk's for extracting the magic from mycelium. I wouldn't attempt this unless I was certain the cake wasn't contaminated. From your pic, little blurry, I can't really tell.
I have to agree that P.E.'s are a very potent strain. I just harvested a small casing of two BRF cakes last month. Mine too where on the small side also.



Had a nice flush though.



Getting ready to harvest my first poo of P.E. This was one 1/2 pint BRF cake spawned to poo.



Not the greatest pinset, but you can definitely see the increase in size.

As far as getting a spore print, I believe only 10% of these drop spores. I let my first crop mature a few days past harvesting time hoping to see a spore and didn't. Maybe this is due to the fact that P.E.s are a mutant strain. If you want a good way to keep this strain in your collection I would recommend a LC.

As you can see, these gills are not very heavy or dark with spores.




All considered though, even being a mutant, I really recommend this strain to everybody as I found it to be the most enjoyable strain I have experienced.
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Re: My first growing project - P.C penis envy [Re: HippieChick]
    #4237852 - 05/30/05 07:22 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Whoa, I must say I have seen your work around the shroomery, and it is very high quality indeed. very nice flushes, though whats the deal with the half coffee container thing just something you found lying around or do you find it to have special qualities ? :smile:

BTW I cant really figure out the size of your yield from the pictures
what is the average size of the mushrooms from the big flush ?
also, how many do you think I should eat to get level 3-4 from your experience, or even forget the levels thing, how much P.E do i need to consume to have a really good time... ? :smile: (i mean fresh mushrooms)

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Re: My first growing project - P.C penis envy [Re: zoharusa]
    #4237860 - 05/30/05 07:25 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Hey, that first flush off a 2 BRF casing was 150 grams wet. The other casings are spawned poo that will probably be harvested in the next couple days. Around 35 grams wet should get you where you want to go. Thanks for the kind words. I try,lol. They're just something I had lying around.
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Re: My first growing project - P.C penis envy [Re: HippieChick]
    #4238159 - 05/30/05 09:19 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Hippie chick what casing tek do you use? Those are sick results off two BRF cakes. Do you crumble and case? Straight verm? Details detailsss. Peace.

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    #4238174 - 05/30/05 09:23 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks.
Crumbled cakes, Crumbled about pea size. 1/2" verm in bottom, cased with 60/40 verm coir with about 4% by volume crushed oyster shell.

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Re: My first growing project - P.C penis envy [Re: HippieChick]
    #4238177 - 05/30/05 09:25 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Do you patch? Or do you not bother? Also do you see the crushed oyster shell ever make a difference? And do you microwave sterilize your casing mix or PC it? Sorry for the Q's my friend's trying to perfect the art. :P

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Re: My first growing project - P.C penis envy [Re: ImOver18]
    #4238188 - 05/30/05 09:32 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Hey, I patch after harvesting. Crushed oyster shell won't make a difference with a coir casing unless you make it to three plus flushes. I try to keep 1/2 gallons of PC'ed casing mix on hand, but do microwave it when in a bind, like now,lol. Gonna be casing 100 pounds of poo spawn here shortly.

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Re: My first growing project - P.C penis envy [Re: HippieChick]
    #4238195 - 05/30/05 09:34 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

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HippieChick said: Gonna be casing 100 pounds of poo spawn here shortly.




There really ought to be a jealous smiley.  :smile:
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Re: My first growing project - P.C penis envy [Re: zoharusa]
    #4239187 - 05/31/05 07:55 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Hey guys, whats up ?
so I got this project coming to the end of the 1st flush I think...
im gonna harvest the guys like tommorow or maybe Thursday and eat them fresh on thursday noon...
but I just have a couple of questions - in the picture , the two guys in the center have these black stains near the cap - I guess it means theyre sporulating which i dont really care about because the spore prints are going to be so small im not even going to bother
and in the top left corner of the picture you can see one shroom that has these strange spots on the bottom ... contams or just nothing ? please help ... thanks



look at the middle and the top left corner

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Re: My first growing project - P.C penis envy [Re: zoharusa]
    #4239365 - 05/31/05 09:16 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Penis blues like crazy, it's so awesome. Thats all that is. Get ready to trip your balls off!

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    #4239562 - 05/31/05 10:35 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Congrats on your success. Those caps may look small, but im sure you could make a 10cc syringe out of one print.


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Re: My first growing project - P.C penis envy [Re: pcubmycol]
    #4240452 - 05/31/05 02:46 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Those look like they're gonna dry dense as fuck.

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Re: My first growing project - P.C penis envy [Re: ImOver18]
    #4241101 - 05/31/05 05:25 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Holy shit dude, me and some friends just ate like 10 grams fresh each and we were at this chicks party and it was sweet as honey :smile:
these babies rock!(the shrooms I mean, and the chicks at the party too) :cool:
im still kinda tripping in front of the computer sort of...

i really like it.
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Re: My first growing project - P.C penis envy [Re: zoharusa]
    #4241668 - 05/31/05 08:11 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

That's sick. Wanna make me a print. :laugh: Hahah.

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Re: My first growing project - P.C penis envy [Re: zoharusa]
    #4242101 - 05/31/05 09:55 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

gj man. was that ur first flush? dunk and roll those beeyatches for the next flush. fan and mist frequently if you dont have a pmp.ur fruiting chamber looks kind of funky so i assume u need to fan and mist. hopfully u get bigger guys next flush. glad u had a good trip!

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Re: My first growing project - P.C penis envy [Re: Shnezbit]
    #4242332 - 05/31/05 10:53 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Nice job. PE's are are fantastic strain to trip on. If you let them mature, it won't make a difference in potency. They'll just taste a little more bitter when eating them. Allow them to grow until the caps are wide open. This way you'll get the most out've yield for your crop.  :thumbup:

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Re: My first growing project - P.C penis envy [Re: Hotnuts]
    #4243107 - 06/01/05 04:12 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Im a noob, but in the pics it looks like the cakes are directly sitting on the perlite, maybe i just cant see the lids of the jars. And im guessing to get the caps bigger and growth more structured you would add a small light, like i think you can get a tiny 15watt bulb and fitting in a pet shop for like $20 and just put it into the top of the bag? and put it on for a few hours a day? Is it better to have bigger stems then caps or make no difference?

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Re: My first growing project - P.C penis envy [Re: TheLegend]
    #4243249 - 06/01/05 06:55 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Naaaaaa on the light. But I would recommend the double end casing tek for the next flush. Like this..........Straw H20 resevoirs are optional, but optimal.


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Re: My first growing project - P.C penis envy [Re: Hotnuts]
    #4243805 - 06/01/05 11:01 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

After you take spore prints I think it's better to make a casing for better yiels or even you can use pasteurized horse poo.It is not so hard.


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