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TiT, with both casing & cakes
    #4229617 - 05/28/05 12:20 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

first timer,

let's say i have a TiT setup and have fully inoculated twelve 1/2 pint jars. Would it be possible to crumble 6 of the jars into a 9" X 11" foil tray using the 50/50 casing method on one side of the TiT, and just leave the other 6 cakes on the other half of the TiT? Or would they need different humidity, temp, light settings ...etc ?

Since i'm a newbie, i was planning to do all 12 cakes in the TiT, but after reading about casing i would like to try that, without putting all my "eggs" into one basket.

lemme know what u think...


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Re: TiT, with both casing & cakes [Re: ziploker]
    #4229632 - 05/28/05 12:26 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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Or would they need different humidity ?





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they need different humidity.

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Re: TiT, with both casing & cakes [Re: ziploker]
    #4229639 - 05/28/05 12:27 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Welcome.
I think you're getting couple of things mixed up here.
TiT is incubator. High temp, darkness, none/minimal air exchange, etc. to get your mic to grow. Yes, you can have both cakes and casing in it, no problem.
Fruiting chamber for mushroom productions. Lower temp, light, fresh air. Yes, you can have both cakes and casing in it as long as you provide the right conditions.

Good luck.


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Re: TiT, with both casing & cakes [Re: Ol_Mr_Owl]
    #4229662 - 05/28/05 12:37 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

thanks for the replies...

what i was thinking of doing after the 12 jars are fully inoculated in the TiT, is unplugging the water heater to bring it down to room temp to induce pinning, and adding a small light on top with a 12 on, 12 off timer, then fanning 2-3 times a day.. Also, i would lightly mist the casing once in a while to keep it slightly moist, but not mist the perlite the cakes are sitting on in the other half of the TiT, u think this would benefit both casings and cakes..

Or should i just do with either all 12 cakes, or all 12 casing?

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Re: TiT, with both casing & cakes [Re: ziploker]
    #4229682 - 05/28/05 12:45 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Im sorta in the Same mess..but further along.. :whack:

I have 10 Cake's + 1 Big casing!

Ive been really busy and havnt had time for a 2nd Fruiting Chamber and HAd to place the Casing inside the Cake Chamber.

CPU - on every 2 hours for 5 min
Coolmist - 24/7
Perlite + Fish Pump

Now Im just testing the Coolmistout on it right now for extra Air and seems to be OK their are PINS showing up everywhere but im worried that the LAck of low RH will cause more aborts?

IS this correct?
if I keep the casing at 99% will it cause more abhorts?
and..
would I be better off taking the casing out and putting it in small rubbermaid with the PErlite and COOLMIST and try and lower the RH?

Anyone???

sorry for being stupid :whack:


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Re: TiT, with both casing & cakes [Re: ziploker]
    #4229688 - 05/28/05 12:48 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Why do newbies try to fruit in a TIT. TiT is for incubating spores and then mycelium. The only reason I would see to put anything in a TiT other than jars is during the spawn run of a bulk. Is it just me? Don't you need a TiT and a fruiting chamber?


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Re: TiT, with both casing & cakes [Re: Dexter_Morgan]
    #4229702 - 05/28/05 12:59 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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ShroomDr said:
Is it just me? Don't you need a TiT and a fruiting chamber?




maybe so.. I thought that as long as i bring temp of the TiT down to 74 - 77 degrees, add in about 12 of light a day, and fan 2-3 times a day, that would make the conditions optimal for a fruiting chamber.

I just wasn't sure if that would be optimal for both fruiting casings and cakes at the same time..

Also, since i have limited space and must keep everything out of sight, I think it would be more beneficial to have 1 TiT as an inoculation incubator, then convert the conditions to a fruiting chamber.

Let me know if i am wrong

But of course, during the inoculation stage the temp would be higher, no light, high humidity and so on...

is this correct? i appreciate all yer feedback...


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Re: TiT, with both casing & cakes [Re: ziploker]
    #4229744 - 05/28/05 01:18 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

You can definitely convert you TiT into a fruiting chamber if you are really cramped for space, but it is not very efficient this way.
For example lets say I can fit 15 jars in my incubating TiT (at 80-84f). When I'm ready to fruit I'll need more room for the cakes. If i tried to fruit i could probably only fit 6 or 7 cakes in there. Basically the same thing is true with a casing.
So if you have the room and separate fruiting chamber is going to be very beneficial.


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Re: TiT, with both casing & cakes [Re: Dexter_Morgan]
    #4229793 - 05/28/05 01:39 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

ohhh... i guess i need to go back to the drawing board ..

so your saying that the TiT that i have now that inoculated 12 jars lets say, will only hold about 6 fruiting cakes after i convert the TiT to a fruiting chamber? the TiT measures 24in X 16in X 12in.

So, i would need another fruiting chamber for the other 6 cakes i plan to crumble and case using 50/50 method?

Would a 11 X 9 x 2-1/2 foil tray be big enough to case six 1/2 pint crumbled up cakes? If so, would i need another TiT the same size as the one mentiond above to put the foil tray in for fruiting?

thanks for all your feedback...


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Re: TiT, with both casing & cakes [Re: ziploker]
    #4230025 - 05/28/05 02:48 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Tip: at RH over 80% the shrooms on a casing usually will get bacterial blotch.
cakes need 95% RH or over to fruit.
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