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free red poppies?!
    #4228073 - 05/27/05 10:27 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)



I found a bunch of these on the side of the interstate. Can I do any good w/these? ......if so, how?


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Re: free red poppies?! [Re: mikl]
    #4228117 - 05/27/05 10:51 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

those aren't the good kind. the crown is a dead giveaway. thats a field poppy papaver rhoeas

http://www.maltawildplants.com/PAPV/Papaver_rhoeas.html


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Re: free red poppies?! [Re: Organic]
    #4228135 - 05/27/05 10:58 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I know that they aren't the "good ones", but are there any effective alkaloids?


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Re: free red poppies?! [Re: mikl]
    #4228171 - 05/27/05 11:13 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

if you searched based on my reply, you would see that the consensus is "no".


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Re: free red poppies?! [Re: Organic]
    #4228241 - 05/27/05 11:32 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I'm not trying to be redundant. My searches have been rewarded w/insufficient data. I have found that quite a few people are confused about ID and also are confused as to which species/genus' contain active ingredients. As I understand there are 2+ varieties of red poppies which differ accordingly. Quite a few argue that California poppies are no good, but I have confirmed otherwise first hand. I have recieved too many variations of the "truth" to determine if any one person may hold sufficient knowledge. :shrug:
I see no resemblance of the leaves in your hotlink to the ones I saw today...........?


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Re: free red poppies?! [Re: mikl]
    #4228243 - 05/27/05 11:33 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Do you have a pic of your leaves?


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Re: free red poppies?! [Re: Organic]
    #4228277 - 05/27/05 11:42 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Sadly no. I stopped at a friends house to take pics of the collected goods. I wasn't prepaired for my discovery. I hopped out of the car at a gas station and continued into the field immediately after spotting a few interesting red flowers. I was informed a few days ago that it was possible to find red poppies which are active (although to a lesser extent).


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Re: free red poppies?! [Re: Organic]
    #4228303 - 05/27/05 11:48 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I need to get pics of the whole plant, but it'll be a while. It's about an hour away and we've been there 2 times in 2 days. We probably won't go back until next week. I hope that they don't mow them all down before then. They come back fast enough though huh?


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Re: free red poppies?! [Re: mikl]
    #4229394 - 05/28/05 09:20 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Papaver rhoeas contains no morphine or codeine. It does contain a medicinal alkaloid, rhoeadine, which is said to be nacotic in very high doses.

I wouldn't recommend messing with it in doses higher than the medicinal dose though.

In Daniel Siebert's kratom guide, he mentions the petals of this poppy as a good synergistic admixture to a kratom tea.

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Certain combinations have been reported by users to be pleasant and supposedly safe. Kratom can certainly be combined with ordinary tea without risk. It has been used with a tea made from red poppy flowers (Papaver rhoeas), which itself has an extremely mild narcotic effect, and with a sedating-euphoriant tea made from ?blue lotus? (Nymphaea caerulea).



http://www.sagewisdom.org/kratomguide.html

[edited to fix the name of the alkaloid]


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