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OfflineJettaAe
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Is this Panaeolus Subbalteatus???
    #4226176 - 05/27/05 01:30 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

ok well i found there out in the lawn.  it was fertilized about a week ago,and it just rained for a while.  these came up the next day.




some have dark round rings around the cap.  I live on the eastern side of the U.S.  Some of the caps are as wide as a half dollar while some are penny size or dime.  they are not completely round.  spore print looks black.  the stems are long and skinny.  ive been comparing them to the Panaeolus Subbalteatus,and they look like it.  Can anybody help me? :thumbup:


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Re: Is this Panaeolus Subbalteatus??? [Re: JettaAe]
    #4226324 - 05/27/05 02:11 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

take another print or make SURE its black


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Re: Is this Panaeolus Subbalteatus??? [Re: JettaAe]
    #4226691 - 05/27/05 03:22 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

aye, looks like subs, spore print=black i'd say they are subs

print a few more and if they're consistently black i'd go for it

but by all means, you probably shouldn't do what i would [:


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Re: Is this Panaeolus Subbalteatus??? [Re: JettaAe]
    #4226964 - 05/27/05 04:20 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

there are two possibilities here:

if the spore print is black, they are the active Panaeolus subbalteatus.

if the spore print is brown, they are the in-active Panaeolina foenisecii.


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Re: Is this Panaeolus Subbalteatus??? [Re: GGreatOne234]
    #4227067 - 05/27/05 04:54 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

ill take some more prints,and check them out.


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Re: Is this Panaeolus Subbalteatus??? [Re: JettaAe]
    #4227078 - 05/27/05 04:58 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

if it is the in-active Panaeolina foenisecii,ive read that it can still make you feel good and happy. is this true? im doing 3 more spore prints now and ill keep you guys updated.


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Re: Is this Panaeolus Subbalteatus??? [Re: JettaAe]
    #4227083 - 05/27/05 04:59 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

its more of a debate, personally i don't think pan foes will do anything.


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Re: Is this Panaeolus Subbalteatus??? [Re: JettaAe]
    #4227106 - 05/27/05 05:14 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

placibo probably, bro. all the experts swear pan. foes are useless as far as activity goes


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Re: Is this Panaeolus Subbalteatus??? [Re: JettaAe]
    #4227145 - 05/27/05 05:29 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

panaeolus foenscii does not have any psilocybin or psilocin.


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Re: Is this Panaeolus Subbalteatus??? [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
    #4227178 - 05/27/05 05:42 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

activity is beyond debate.
fact is, the species (and genus) paneolina
are not organisms that produce psilocybin or psilocin.
not all paneolus mushrooms do either.


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Re: Is this Panaeolus Subbalteatus??? [Re: Mitchnast]
    #4227522 - 05/27/05 07:43 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I could tell by looking at the gills it was not a foe.
On foes they usually protrude below the edge of the caps.


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Re: Is this Panaeolus Subbalteatus??? [Re: MasonsChild]
    #4228337 - 05/28/05 12:00 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

well the bad news is i think the prints are brown. the very light prints look brown to me,but some of the better ones look black. im color blind so im going to get a second opinion. could these 2 species be growing with each other?


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Re: Is this Panaeolus Subbalteatus??? [Re: JettaAe]
    #4229026 - 05/28/05 03:36 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

you can tell they are foens. from the stems they are to thin and brown, subbs have thick stem that are a more cream color.


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Re: Is this Panaeolus Subbalteatus??? [Re: cwbfromtheksvi]
    #4229342 - 05/28/05 07:30 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Brown print? Huh, My yard is full of foes all the time and the biggest one I've seen had a cap less than the size of a quarter, usually dime to nickle size. Unless the writing on the paper below the mushrooms is really small they would all be the biggest foes I've ever seen. Plus, they print here a really deep brown which can look  almost more black than brown.
Not saying they are subs,(brown print) just saying they appear to be much larger than any foe I've found in Minnesota or Wisconsin. Also the gills are not foe like in my experience, which is not much.
Damn, I better print again this year,I might be mowing something I shouldn't :chainsaw:


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Re: Is this Panaeolus Subbalteatus??? [Re: MasonsChild]
    #4229395 - 05/28/05 09:21 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

i was reading on this site,and they said that the foens in washinton state are non-active,but the ones in the eastern are potent.


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Re: Is this Panaeolus Subbalteatus??? [Re: JettaAe]
    #4229695 - 05/28/05 12:52 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

foes , Look at the stem and gills.


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Re: Is this Panaeolus Subbalteatus??? [Re: GGreatOne234]
    #4229892 - 05/28/05 02:10 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

updated pictures. could it be possible for 2 species to be growing together?


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Re: Is this Panaeolus Subbalteatus??? [Re: JettaAe]
    #4231243 - 05/28/05 09:48 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Possible, sure. Always. I don't know what to think about those.


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Re: Is this Panaeolus Subbalteatus??? [Re: superblingtheory]
    #4232252 - 05/29/05 02:56 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

safe to eat some and see if anything happens?


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Re: Is this Panaeolus Subbalteatus??? [Re: JettaAe]
    #4232903 - 05/29/05 11:37 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

safe to make a spore print, not eat first- eat last.


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